LETTER TO THE EDITOR: Preventing Bankruptcy at Capo Unified

It's going to take a lot more than tax increases and parent donations.

EDITOR'S NOTE: Patch welcomes letters to the editor from all perspectives on all issues. To submit your own letter regarding Capistrano Unified, email Penny.Arevalo@patch.com.

There are currently 143 school districts in the state of California that are facing insolvency this year. Orange County has nine out of their 28 districts on that list. (The complete list can be viewed at: Second Interim Status Report, FY 2010-11)

  • Anaheim City
  • Capistrano Unified
  • Centralia
  • Fullerton Elementary
  • Fullerton Joint Union High
  • Garden Grove Unified
  • La Habra City
  • Santa Ana Unified
  • Westminster

(Saddleback Valley Unified has recently been removed from this list). 

With 50 percent of California's State budget going to fund education, why are so many Orange County Schools facing bankruptcy?

Part of the reason is the unfair distribution of property tax dollars. Of the 58 counties in California, Orange County is the state's most generous "donor" county. That means that Orange County public school children receive a much smaller percentage of our tax dollars than children in all the other counties in the state. (See http://octax.org/cat3sub3.php - Highlights below):

Orange County taxpayers spend about 70 percent of their property taxes on schools and only 30 percent on county and city governments and special districts. Those percentages are roughly reversed in San Francisco, which is a “recipient” county. Does this mean our schools are better-funded than those in San Francisco and other recipient counties? Unfortunately, no.
Orange County taxpayers spend only 6 percent of our property taxes on county government. The statewide average for all 58 counties is 18 percent. In other words, general governmental services in the average county in California are three times better-funded than in Orange County.
This “tax inequity” costs Orange County taxpayers dearly. Since 1992, the ERAF shift has taken probably $5 billion dollars from the county’s general fund, libraries, flood control, harbors beaches and parks and other community service agencies. 
Orange County’s annual “donation” to recipient counties is about $200,000,000 (money our schools could greatly use).
Definition: ERAF - (Educational Revenue Augmentation Fund: Property Tax Shifts) 

What that means is that our budget problems cannot be solved by voting to increase taxes. For every dollar of tax - only 6 cents of that dollar comes back to Orange County schools. Facing $50 million in budget cuts this year alone, and union contracts that contain yearly automatic increases to compensation means that all Orange County schools will eventually go bankrupt unless the state of California changes the formulas used to calculate ERAF percentages or schools are able to negotiate large and permanent cuts to employee compensation.

What this means for Capo Unified

When my child started in CUSD five years ago, CUSD had an annual budget of $473 million dollars. The current year budget is about $381 million dollars. Despite $100 million dollars in cuts over the past five years, CUSD has been able to balance its budget and meet expanding contractual obligations through class-size increases and temporary work-year reductions (furlough days). 

While some cuts have been made to employee compensation* almost all of the $100 million in cuts made to date have been from that portion of the budget (normally 15-20 percent) that does not go to employee compensation. 

* The 2010 teachers union strike did result in an agreement to cut teachers’ salaries by 10.1 percent through June 2012, but the Board of Trustees voted to reinstate a portion of the teachers wages last year, reducing those cuts to 6.49 percent. 

Today, 92 percent of the CUSD budget goes to employee compensation leaving only 8 percent of CUSD's budget for EVERYTHING ELSE! So where will CUSD find $50 million in cuts this year?   

CUSD Employee Cuts

With 92 percent of the budget going to employee compensation, CUSD will most likely be facing a battle over reductions in salaries, pensions or benefits. The same battle that lead to a teachers strike in 2010. At Monday night's Board of Trustee meeting, trustees voted to reopen negotiations with the district's three employee unions because staff could only identify $11 million in cuts that could be made without reopening union contracts.

What has been put on the table for discussion is class-size increases, furlough days, wage and benefit adjustments. District staff even went so far as to suggest that student government bodies and booster clubs be set up to accept donations. Are we really going to start funding public schools core programs with donations?

According to California State law, a "public" school must provide the same opportunities to each student despite their parent's income or ability to pay. If we start funding public education with donations, it will create greater educational opportunities in richer communities with less opportunities in poor areas, which is against state law.

Why additional taxes won't work

It's time for everyone (parents and the educational work force) living in Orange County to realize that the ability to continually raise class size, or cut the number of days in the school year to meet growing contractual compensation obligations is unsustainable.

While a November tax increase may help recipient counties in the state of California, the proposed tax increases, even if they are passed will not be enough to save Orange County schools. At a return of 6 cents out of every dollar in tax, tax increases will not keep pace with current step and column salary increases nor ballooning pension and benefit costs. The possibility of balancing the budget through fundraising is ludicrous. 

So it is time that CUSD employees align themselves politically with Orange County parents to change educational funding at the state level rather then align themselves with "state" union positions that simply seek to raise additional revenues through greater taxation which benefit only "recipient" counties, not "donor" counties.

Why a teachers' strike won't work

When the state teachers' union starts beating the "increase tax revenue drum" and asks Orange County teachers go on strike to support revenue increases rather than accept cuts to compensation, there are some facts that Orange County parents and teachers should know before supporting another teachers' strike over compensation.

A recent report from the Legislative Analysts Office titled, "2011 Cal Facts: Program Trends K- 12: California School Rankings Are A Mixed Bag."

Nationwide  California State-Ranking CUSD as of 2012  Average teacher salary  $53,168  $66.064  First  $77,508 Spending per student  $9,509  $9,015  31st  $7,228 Student-teacher ratio  15.3  20.8  49th  33
  • California has the highest average teacher salary of any state in the country but also has among the highest numbers of students per teacher.
  • California ranks 31st in per pupil spending.
  • California ranks almost last in student achievement. 
* CUSD numbers from: 2010–11 Current Cost of Education link: http://www.cde.ca.gov/fg/fi/ir/first1112.asp

CUSD class size

In CUSD Average class size is 33. State law requires class sizes in those grades to average no more than 29.9 students per teacher. If a district’s average exceeds that number, it faces stiff financial penalties. The only way to get around the law is to ask the State Board of Education for a waiver. 

CUSD requested a waiver in April 2011 to increase class size in grades 4 - 8. See Agenda Item No. 6 April 27, 2011 Regular Board Meeting Agenda  
CUSD requested a waiver in February 2012 to increase class size in grades K- 3. See Agenda Item Nos. 5 and 6  February 29, 2012 Regular Board Meeting

It is important to note that this is an "average" class size. That means CUSD has many classes with much higher student-teacher ratios than 33 to 1.

It is also important to note that class-size increases must be negotiated. If you read Section 8.5 on page 19 of the CUEA contract, it requires that teachers receive "release days" if their classes have more students than the negotiated number. Release days provide teachers with a paid day at school, outside of their classroom to do paperwork, etc.

That means a sub has to be hired for each "release day." Release days are bad for our children. Not only do our kids have larger class sizes, they get less days with their actual teacher and more days with a substitute teacher.

In addition to being bad for our children, release days cost the district a lot of money. To find a sub for each release day, the contract requires the district to hire teachers who have been laid off. The district has to pay these laid-off teachers at the rate they were making when they were let go (not at the rate for a typical sub), meaning that the district is paying for "two" teachers at full-time rates (not sub rates) for each release day.

Spending per student

National average: $9,509. California: $9,015. Capistrano Unified: $7,228. Per-student spending will not improve without making structural changes to the way California funds education.

CUSD teachers' salaries

Salaries, pensions and benefits are currently 92 percent of the district's total budget. Total compensation (salary + benefits) bring the average teacher compensation in CUSD to well over $100,000 per year.

Despite continued cuts to CUSD's budget, automatic step-and-column salary increases mean that so called "cuts" are actually "reductions to automatic contractual increases" and not "real cuts."

In checking the database for my child's school, I found that of 33 employees, 21 received salary increases this year (an actual pay raise); six received pay cuts; one remained unchanged; and, five had no data to compare.

So while district children have seen class sizes increase every year, have lost instructional minutes because of furlough days and seen core programs cut, most teachers received actual pay increases. The bulk of the $100 million dollars in cuts that CUSD has made to date have not come from employee compensation, which has continued to increase every year for a majority of the district's 4,000 employees. 

A quick check of the databases at the OC Register show that district administrators also received raises this year. Superintendent Joseph Farley received a $7,000 raise, bringing his salary (excluding benefits) to $282,200.04. Quite astonishing when the district is facing $50 million in cuts and is asking parents to raise revenues through tax increases or donations. We already give the state of California $50 Billion dollars per year in tax money that pays for education (half of California's total budget).

I encourage every parent to check the databases below to see how many of their teachers and administrators received actual pay increases this year. Does the district really expect students and parents – many who have lost jobs, suffered substantial pay decreases and/or lost a huge amount of their own retirement savings – to "fundraise" to pay for employee compensation increases while the district is on the verge of bankruptcy?

Salaries database: Click here to review salaries of 2010-11 employees earning $25,000 and more.

Benefits database: See a comprehensive review of O.C. teacher benefits.


The average teacher salary in Capistrano Unified is $77,508.00 (see j90summary1011, page 18) with 95 percent of a teacher's benefits being paid by the district (see Database: Review 2009-10 benefits costs for Orange County school districts and benefit plan details for all California districts.) Total compensation (salary + benefits) bring the average teacher compensation in CUSD to well over $100,000 per year.

A look at CUSD health benefits shows that Capistrano Unified teachers receive Kaiser Permanente health insurance coverage completely free and only pay 5 percent for Cadillac health plans with the district picking up 95 percent of those costs.

I would like to put that into perspective: I have Kaiser for my health insurance. The cost to cover my family of four is $1,364.00 per month ($16,368 per year) for the same plan that district employees get for free. Kaiser increases the cost of its insurance about 10 percent per year. In the last four years, my costs have gone from $881 in 2008 to $1,364 in 2012.

How is the district going to cover these increases going forward? Perhaps it is time to look at requiring CUSD employees to contribute more to their health coverage as one way to balance the budget rather than increasing class size or cutting the number of school days per year. 

The district currently has a $51.5 million dollar unfunded liability for benefits. 

Furlough days

Furlough days may not be as attractive to unions this year because we have reached the minimum number of days of instruction (168) in order for pensions to vest. 

The teachers' union has been very concerned about being able to use furlough days as a means to balance this year's budget. State law requires teachers to work a minimum number of days in order for their pensions and benefits to vest.  

The teachers just got the approval to negotiate an additional 15 furlough days without affecting benefits. SO parents brace yourself: The bad news is that the school year may be shortened by 15 additional days. The good news is that teachers' pensions and benefits will vest even with the shorter school year. 

According to Fiscal Report, a publication of School Services of California, a consultant to CUSD and many other school districts:

STRS Service Credit Not a Problem After All
It was previously reported in the Fiscal Report (see "More on the Trigger, the Seven Days, and the STRS Credit Problem" in the October 8, 2011, Fiscal Report) and widely publicized by news media and education organizations statewide, that a reduction in the school year below 175 days would cause an active member of the California State Teachers' Retirement System (STRS) to lose service credit. STRS is now reporting that base days may fall below 175 without a loss of service credit according to Education Code Section (E.C.) 22138.5.E.C. 22138.5 includes these statements:
For the purpose of crediting service under this part, "full time" may not be less than the minimum standard specified in this section... The minimum standard for full time in prekindergarten through grade 12 is as follows:(1) One hundred seventy-five days per year or 1,050 hours per year, except as provided [for administrators].
Despite the statewide attention given to this issue by policymakers, a plain reading of the code above, and an effort on the part of STRS in an omnibus cleanup bill last spring to "fix" the reported service credit problem, it now appears that the school year could be reduced significantly with no loss of service credit to STRS members working full time.STRS has clarified that E.C. 22138.5 provides local educational agencies the responsibility for establishing the standard for full-time service. Full-time service cannot fall below the minimums described in E.C. 22138.5. For teachers, full time means no fewer than 175 days or 1,050 hours. What this effectively means is that a reduction in work year could be negotiated that falls well below 175 days without impacting service credit so long as the following are true:
  • The standard for full time is applicable to the entire class of employees
  • The standard for full time does not fall below 1,050 hours
  • The compensation earnable for an employee working full time is equal to their earnings
For example, assuming a 7.5-hour duty day and a work year of 160 days, the standard for full time would be 1,200 hours, well above the statutory minimum. Under this scenario, and assuming a 1.0 full-time equivalent employee at no time during the year falls into unpaid leave status, the employee would receive a full year of service credit.
What Does This Mean for School Districts and County Offices of Education? Should we find ourselves in a situation similar to the one caused by Assembly Bill 114—whereby the proposed contingency plan for anticipated revenues falling short of projections (or in the case of next year, the tax measure failing) was to further reduce the school year—negotiating a reduction in the work year of certificated employees below 175 days would not have a long-term negative impact on their service credit so long as the standard for full-time did not fall below 1,050 hours.To be clear, we believe that further reducing the school year would be poor public policy. We need a longer school year—not a shorter one; we need lower class sizes—not higher; we need more options for students—not fewer; and we need stability for our professional teachers, administrators, and classified staff—not more layoff notices. Unfortunately, the economics have led us down the path of short-sighted policy decisions, which will regrettably have profound impacts on education, our economy, and California's workforce for years to come.—Suzanne Speck


Fundraising has allowed a greater and greater percentage of CUSD's budget to be spent on salaries, pensions and benefits with greater and greater reliance on fundraising to pay for core educational programs.

For example, to continue block music and Meet the Masters (art program), my school's PTA was told to raise funds to pay for these programs or they would be eliminated. As more and more programs are cut, parents are being asked to donate more and more to schools for things that should be covered by the $50 billion that taxpayers already give to the state of California for education.

The PTA, which is chartered as an "advocacy organization," has been turned into a "fundraising organization" with more and more time spent raising money and less time advocating on behalf of children.

Separate from the PTA as a fundraiser, parents have been asked to pay fees to participate is sports and other activities. Last year, the ACLU sued the state of California so that parents can no longer be forced to pay for books, supplies and participation in school activities, such as sports and other extracurricular activities. These "fees" were found to be illegal. A "public" school must provide the same opportunities to each student despite his parent's income or ability to pay. 

Not only is the district facing $50 million in cuts, revenues from fees and fundraising will be less as a result of the ACLU lawsuit (DOE Vs California). Download: Settlement agreement between state and ACLU over school fees


In reality, it's time to re-think education funding in the state of California. Orange County cannot continue to let the quality of our students' education suffer as a result of unfair funding formulas and ridiculous union contracts. See LAO Report Restructuring the K-12 Funding System - California Legislative

Orange County parents and Orange County educators need to join forces and change the way education is funded in California. There are not enough revenue sources available to fix our bankrupt school districts.

Parents need to separate the "teacher" from the "union." The union has been really good at getting parents to support state political positions by using a parent's love and respect for the individual teacher to translate into support for union positions; even if that position actually hurts the quality of education that the child will receive.

Parents need to understand that that it is the job of the union to advocate on behalf of its members by fighting for increased salaries, pensions and benefits. The union does do not have any responsibility for the children in our district.

In reality, there is no one sitting down at the bargaining table who represents the interest of the children, which is why employee compensation continues to eat up a larger and larger percentage of the CUSD budget. In reality, the California education system has been transformed into an adult jobs programand is no longer about the education of our children.

The Real Cost of Public Education?

What is the real cost of educating a public school student? The Cato Institute did a study, They Spend WHAT? The Real Cost of Public Schools, and found that Los Angeles Unified spends $30,000 per student in "real costs" and has a 40 percent drop-out rate. LAUSD spends $30K per student.

The following is a summary of compensation increases for my child's school this year. I personally will not be doing any "fundraising" so long as a bulk of my school teachers and administrators are still receiving pay increases. The salary increase that my principal alone received this year would have been enough to pay for the cost of block music and Meet the Masters.

2009-2010 2010- 2011 Salary Change Principal

$113,861.00 $124,464.67 Increase Office Manager
$54,073.06 $52,754.14 Decrease Attendance Clerk
$43,342.37 $42,596.89 Decrease Community Liaison 

$27,902.72 $27,902.72 No Change Speech
No Data CUSD Kindergarten
$50,969.92 $53,054.55 Increase
$55,767.06 $56,372.06 Increase 
$62,743.95 $64,551.65 Increase 
$71,609.22 $72,016.27 Increase
$81,772.17 $84,066.14 Increase First Grade
$84,270.40 $86,201.58 Increase
No Data CUSD
$84,329.36 $85,740.91 Increase
$86,139.59 $90,115.31 Increase
No Data CUSD
$73,230.49 $73,945.49 Increase Second Grade
$57,151.00 $61,512.77 Increase
$64,571.14 $67,532.45 Increase
$41,116.14 $34,207.06 Decrease
$66,427.04 $68,495.84 Increase
$87,734.18 $87,633.48 Decrease Third Grade
$94,079.55 $92,512.60 Decrease
$59,734.16 $66,077.76 Increase
$74,150.49 $74,445.66 Increase
$63,362.75 $55,670.55 Decrease
$50,312.56 $54,677.28 Increase Fourth Grade
No Data CUSD
$70,065.53 $72,011.60 Increase
$83,782.17 $87,995.14 Increase Fifth Grade
$80,352.98 $81,095.86 Increase
$62,827.26 $63,825.10 Increase
$90,354.55 $92,916.60 Increase
Pam Sunderman March 19, 2012 at 11:55 PM
Not sure what your comment has to do with the post above...but how much of that $20 million was returned to teachers? And of that amount how much of it was pay for restored furlough days? You didn't expect teachers to work for free on those restored furlough days did you? This is a perfect example of the kind of disingenuous methods used to mislead people and where some of the posters above get their information. So, actually, you were more on point than I originally thought you were.
Pam Sunderman March 20, 2012 at 12:02 AM
Capo parent...how would making all schools charter schools help with budget woes? And how would making schools compete with each other help with budget woes? And what kinds of tools would you use to measure a love and desire to succeed? And how would would determine the merit of a teacher? Most of the education red tape has come about due to litigation and legislation so I agree that getting rid of frivolous litigation and legislative interference would benefit schools.
shelly March 20, 2012 at 12:24 AM
Craig Alexander what about groups like the education alliance. Should they be able to contribute to elections?
Capo Parent March 20, 2012 at 04:30 AM
JG You and Shelly are the queens of many questions, but few answers. How do you measure love and a desire to succeed? Probably the same way you measure hate and a lack of desire to succeed. How do you determine the merit of a teacher, the same way a teacher determines the merit of a student. Teachers, for the most part, know how to measure their students after a break in period, and the vice versa is true. Kids, especially at middle and high school levels, know which teachers are good, which are ok, and which suck. Measuring intangibles is kinda of like phonography, I can't define it, but I know it when I see it.
Capo Parent March 20, 2012 at 04:39 AM
JG Of course you find Dawn's letter to be more misleading than informative, you're part of a union that is part of the "education elite." How dare someone like Dawn, a mere uninformed and hopelessly ignorant parent question the "vision, knowledge and expertise" of the education elite. What the heck is she thinking? Go Dawn! The claim is not that the teachers got a raise, it's that their pay rose almost 6% over the last year while CUSD is in the throes of dealing with multi-year, multi-million dollar deficits. As for your claim that Dawn cites a biased think tank to support her position, uh no kidding. You're biased, and your posts drip with bias and prejudice. What think tank isn't biased? Next thing you know you'll be claiming that CUEA is not biased.
shelly March 20, 2012 at 05:09 AM
Capo parent, Dawn's letter is opinion and not fact. It is written as an opinion letter. It is biased because it is based on biased reports. As you say, what think tank isn't bias. And Dawn, no need to contribute or fundraise. Your child will still benefit from all of us who will fundraise and contribute and no one will hold it against you or your child.
Pam Sunderman March 20, 2012 at 07:00 AM
Capo Parent you have been misled about that 6% figure. That figure represents the fact that there are fewer lower paid teachers since the massive layoffs so the average teacher salary rose...it does not mean that teachers received a raise. As for students being responsible for deciding merit and pay for teachers...really? Surely that's not your solution for paying teachers fairly? I speak for myself Capo Parent. I do not represent the union and they certainly do not tell me what to say. I speak from personal experience and personal knowledge. My bias is for teachers and public schools....but it is based on what I have personally observed and experienced. We disagree but that does not make either of us a bad person. Please be civil and respectful. My questions were fair. If you propose merit pay it is fair to ask how you would determine merit. That is a question that has not been answered because it is very difficult to measure.
Penny Arévalo (Editor) March 20, 2012 at 03:48 PM
FYI, there's a chart comparing teacher salaries at the largest school districts in California here: http://www.voiceofsandiego.org/education/article_51582f2a-6fc8-11e1-bfd2-0019bb2963f4.html
Pam Sunderman March 20, 2012 at 04:34 PM
Oh goody...a chart! (Sorry Penny, I couldn't resist...don't take it personally but "charts" are just a way to display statistics and we all know how those can be manipulated) The link didn't work. But if CUSD teachers are near the top then this is a perfect example of merit pay, right? Because CUSD students score among the highest of large districts in the state. So the "measurement" and "merit" people should be very pleased. I know I am.
Penny Arévalo (Editor) March 20, 2012 at 04:39 PM
Trying this again. Just came over a Google alert. Try http://bit.ly/x6bWd2
Pam Sunderman March 20, 2012 at 04:42 PM
Got it...and we are at the top. Hurray. The best pay for the best scores. All is well in measurement land. Merit pay is already in existence.
OC Mom March 20, 2012 at 04:49 PM
Hi Penny, Your first link is working just fine for me. I'm still reading the very lengthy article. Again CUSD teachers should be pleased that they have higher salaries than the other districts as well as an enormous amount of parent volunteers, fundraisers and supply donations. San Diego teachers while paid less are receiving free paid benefits for their entire families. Our shared portion that we pay from my spouse's employer is quite large. Those who are self employed or work for smaller companies would love to have the Cadillac benefits fo these public servants. Jolly and the rest of the public employees and former public employees need to recognize that the benefits and pay they currently receive as well as their pensions are unsustainable. I'm struggling to feed my family and pay our bills, I know that there are many worse off. Asking teachers and other government employees to take cuts like the rest of society is not too much to ask. Look at how Americans came together during WWII to ration and conserve resources during those difficult times. They made the best out of difficult situations and joined together to make the best of it. That's why they are called the "Greatest Generation". What will we be remembered as? The "Entitled Generation" or "Selfish Generation." Even Governor Brown is proposing raising the age of retirement for pension beneficiaries and requiring that they contribute more of their own money to the plans.
Jane Lambson March 20, 2012 at 04:53 PM
Shelly: Yes, it is a Letter to the Editor, but numbers don't lie. Are you saying that she is pulling these figures from thin air? Yes, she states an opinion, but her basis for her opinion is based on UNBIASED FACTS. She cites her sources, and for some reason, I can't see a salary database, a report for the Legislative Office, and minutes from a CUSD board meeting to be biased. This shouldn't be too hard to grasp, should it. Bottom line, several districts, including CUSD are in dire financial straits, and my original impression in reading her letter was to inform the masses, these same masses that go day to day not knowing the peril we face. If you were quuen for a day, what would you do about it? Here are my solutions: LOWER (not increase) the sales tax rate. This attracts more local spending and more tourist dollars. Entice corporations to return to CA with a lower regulatory environment. This brings in tax revenue and brings in jobs. These job holders probably have kids who will use our school districts. This brings in Title I and ADA money. These ideas are simplistic, but it is a better alternative to higher income taxes, higher sales taxes, and potential parcel taxes.
OC Mom March 20, 2012 at 04:58 PM
JG, Teachers should be evaluated and receive merit pay based on several factors. Classroom observations to see if they are effective at keeping the children's attention and controlling the classroom as well as data driven by seeing if the children have improved their test scores from the previous years Star tests. While some students aren't good test takers, overall if the trend is that most students saw an improvement and are proficient or advanced the teacher is doing a great job at teaching the material and the students are retaining the information. This is how Oxford evaluates teachers. They are on a yearly contract which can be terminated at any time if they aren't effective. That's why they are so enthusiastic about making sure the kids learn the material. They are willing to put in extra time, effort, try different methods etc. Their very jobs depend on them being effective, just like the rest of us in the real world have to do a good job or lose ours. Having had my children in CUSD schools and other public schools, I've never seen more hardworking teachers. I wish that all of these teachers earned the high salaries of a few of the complacent slackers I encountered in CUSD schools. I just loved the one who arrived after the bell rang each morning and wasn't effective even with only 20 kids in her class. I know because I worked in the classroom and observed her laid back attitude.
Capo mom March 20, 2012 at 05:22 PM
Charts like this one display average data. That isn't really statistics. But statistics are not difficult to interpret if you understand them. The timeframe of this analysis isn't discussed, that would be highly relevant. Value of benefits, whether they are offered to family members and what contributions look like for those who contribute isn't discussed either. There is no data offered about test scores, CUSD could be the best, worst or anywhere in between according to the data given. So how does one conclude this is a merit based system? But just for clarity, are you endorsing a merit based pay method for teachers rather than step and column, jollygirl?
Pam Sunderman March 20, 2012 at 05:51 PM
Averages certainly are statistics Capo mom. And what I am saying (once my tongue leaves my cheek) is that your call for merit pay has been answered. The teachers of the students who scored highest in large districts (info on this was previously published by the district) are earning the highest average pay. Isn't that what you advocate? My own take on the subject is that the current pay scale rewards experience (just as most jobs do) and expertise (as reflected by continuing professional training). We expect our doctors, dentists, lawyers, city planners, architects, engineers and all other professions to keep up with current research and trends. And we value the expertise they have. They rise in their profession as a result of their expertise. Why is experience not valued by you? As for using test scores as a measure...if you have participated in school testing you will know that, not only do the tests not measure what students are learning, they leave out very critical aspects of education. How do you measure creatively, problem solving, learning skills, and other crucial aspects of learning on a test? I do not want the future citizens of this country taught only to master a test.
Pam Sunderman March 20, 2012 at 05:51 PM
OC Mom, The teachers of CUSD are hard working, enthusiastic, put in extra time, effort and try different methods as well. They are doing a good job and are evaluated by administrators. I hardly think you are qualified to evaluate a teacher based on your weekly volunteer observations. Teachers are people and you may not like a particular teachers "laid back attitude" or her classroom discipline. You may do things differently. No one arrives after the bell every morning...and if you observed this you should report it to the site administrator. Did you have access to the test scores of her students? Are you qualified to determine the way her students succeed daily in the classroom? How do you know she wasn't effective? You may not have liked her. I didn't like every teacher that my children had. That is not a guarantee...teachers are very different, just like students and parents. You are looking for perfection by your definition. You will never find that. And I'm not sure that you should. Some of the best lifelong lessons my children learned came from negative experiences that I helped them through. I hope you took your concerns to the administrator. I hope that you will take them to the administrators at OPA. Are the teachers there evaluated only on the basis of improved test scores? I hope not. I hope your children thrive wherever they attend. But it is not necessary (or valid) to say that OPA teachers are better than CUSD teachers.
Just a Mom March 21, 2012 at 05:42 AM
Shelly, I send my kids to school to be taught by teachers, not by volunteers! Did you go to college? Do you have a degree in teaching? Did you take an oath not to talk about certain things like religion and sex to my children. No, I''m sure you didn't, and we have know idea what the background of any of the other 20 volunteers our children are exposed to every week. You may not care about having strangers help teach your child, but I do and I am running out of patients for the parents that believe the teachers are over worked, but not parent volunteers.
shelly March 21, 2012 at 02:49 PM
Just a Mom, The teachers do the teaching. Volunteers volunteer. If you do not want to volunteer then don't. No one is demanding that you do. There are schools in this district where there are not many volunteers and the same curriculum is taught and kids learn because the teachers do the teaching just like at any other school. I know the parents of the students who my children go to school with so they are not strangers. And yes, I have a college degree but that really does not matter because I am not teaching. I am volunteering. Are you saying that copying papers for a teacher, cutting paper, helping with an art project, reading to children, helping check out books in the library, etc. are teaching? Children learn the lesson of volunteering and being involved by seeing their parents and others volunteering. So don't volunteer if you do not want to because no one is demanding that you do. And if you feel you are overworked by volunteering and you are feeling resentful because of this then don't volunteer because the negative energy is not good for the children.
shelly March 21, 2012 at 02:57 PM
OC Mom Yes, the greatest generation sacrificed for their children whether they were their children or not. They came together and helped each other. The teachers and others will take cuts because they will have to but it will not be enough so what should the parents and members of the community do? Just complain about the government, point fingers, say they've done enough and then do nothing? Entitled Generation or Selfish Generation?
Capo Parent March 21, 2012 at 08:05 PM
JG (the union watch dog) and Shelly (the teachers watch dog) will make sure that no comment that is somehow criticial of unions and/or teachers goes without a response. Bottom line, the unions in CUSDs have skirted the really hard financial times that exist in the private sector/non-education world. However, economic reality is now here for CUSD and its unions. 92% of the CUSD budget is salaries and benefits, and this percentage has grown over the last several years. The other 8% of the budget has been cut, sliced and flayed to the bone and beyond. CUSD now has to make deep and painful cuts to salaries & benefits. This is dictated by math, logic and common sense, not by any hatred or amiss towards teachers and other employees. Reducing salaries & benefits is the only real world solution for CUSD to cover its budget deficit of $33 to $51 million, notwithstanding the hue and cry of JG & Shelly. We as a society were grossly over leveraged and we grossly over spent. We have spent the last 3 to 4 years deleveraging. This is reflected in dramatically lower home equity, salaries and benefits, and 401(k)s, with significant increases in the cost of health care insurance, if such insurance has not been totally eliminated. National, state, county and local gov'ts are facing challenging budget deficits. We are all paying the price, some sooner (the public) than later (the unions).
OC Mom March 22, 2012 at 12:07 AM
Shelly, Just because someone disagrees with your viewpoint doesn't make them negative. If your last sentence is true, then you may want to opt out of volunteering and stay far away from children as well. When I volunteered I gave Spelling sight word tests and I know other parents who tutored those who needed help. Just because your experience isn't the same doesn't invalidate Just a Mom's viewpoint.
Capo mom March 22, 2012 at 12:59 AM
Marcus Walton "It's our position that restoring those salaries was an important step to re-establishing the trust between our employees and the district leadership. We're very confident we're positioned to better handle the budget crisis now." In other words, "The only trust that is important in CUSD is between the administration and CUEA. But don't worry, we paid the union off so hopefully they won't throw your kids under the bus again." I am so relieved (not). These people are disgusting.
shelly March 22, 2012 at 05:02 AM
OC Mom, Please actually read what I responded to. If Just a Mom feels she is overworked as a parent volunteer then she should not volunteer. And just because I do not agree with your point of view does not make my energy negative. It just means I don't agree with you. I enjoy volunteering in the classroom and at my children's schools. I do not feel forced to do it. I do not see volunteers teaching the lessons. I see parents helping the teachers and using their individual strengths to add to lessons and help with tasks that take the teacher away from actually teaching. I also do not see my fellow volunteers as strangers because they are people who are involved in my community. It is not mandatory to volunteer. It is a choice. It is volunteering. Isn't it mandatory at OPA for parents to volunteer a certain amount of hours? Is that a bad thing or does it strenghten the school community by encouraging involvement in the school in which your children attend. Have a wonderful night.
shelly March 22, 2012 at 05:30 AM
Capo Parent, I am a parent. A parent with children in CUSD schools. If you wish to label me then label me as a parent who cares about the schools that her children attend and a parent who cares about the children who attend these schools and a parent who cares about the people who work with her children and for her children. The economy tanked. The OC Supervisors are balancing their budget on our children's backs. California does not fund districts equally. Our tax dollars go out but do not all come back. Currently we do not value education. We value business, banks, oil and corporations. If we did value education then there would be no deficit in education budgets. There is a deficit but I choose not to point fingers at the people that I have seen working hard for and with my children. Teachers did not cause the deficit. We all did. But some expect teachers to fix it all. Teachers and our district will take big cuts. But what will you do? If you expect teachers and others to take cuts to fix it what will you contribute? If you say that you have given enough then don't ask others to do what you are not willing to do yourself. If you do not want your money to go to Sacramento then contribute to Capo, Capo parent. Our children are in school now so reducing and cutting programs which is going to happen may be your only solution but it sounds like a cop out to me. Yes, it is a challenging dilema so be challenged and help.
Angie Kilroy March 23, 2012 at 07:49 AM
I am a teacher and have wonderful parent volunteers! They take care of some of the "busy work" type tasks such as copying, filing work in memory books/cubbies, checking off HW, tallying reading minutes, checking books in/out at the library, etc. This allows me to actually have something to eat and take a bathroom break at recess and lunch (if I don’t have playground duty). They can also be counted on to help with class cooking projects, in the science/computer lab, or even read with a student who needs some extra one-on-one reading time. When I have been really fortunate, I have enough volunteers to facilitate small groups, so my scholars are getting a better ratio of student to adult and I can really focus on the group I am working with. Believe me, I don't have the extra help every year, so when I do I really appreciate it. Even with volunteers, I am at school until at least 4:30 p.m. each day grading papers, attending meetings, planning for lessons, answering parent calls/e-mails, planning with my team, etc. I also take grading or planning items home with me to do in the evening, after I help my daughter with her homework, get my family fed, and then get my daughter in bed. If you see me at my daughter's sporting events or practices, I am usually grading or working on something! So, thank you to volunteers who help teachers like me each day. Your help allows teachers to have more time to focus on what is important - your children and their education!
Capo mom March 23, 2012 at 08:51 PM
I just wanted to respond to shelley's constant moan that the county has somehow done CUSD wrong. The facts are these; The state confiscated the county of Orange's special DMV fees (negotiated from the bankruptcy settlement in the 90's) as part of Brown's budget deal last year. So the county withheld a compensatory amount in property taxes but agreed to rollover CUSD's TRANs that were due to the county. How nicely that worked out! Had the county not agreed to do this, CUSD would have likely had to look to the state to borrow these funds. Since the amount due for the TRANs was considerably more than twice the required reserve amount (and borrowing more than that from the state puts a school district into receivership automatically) this prevented CUSD from going into receivership. But our school district is virtually there anyway, as Robyn Phillips has pointed out.
shelly March 25, 2012 at 03:03 AM
Capo Mom, So it is okay with you that the county has taken 75 million from education? You could say the same excuse for the state, "Well, the feds aren't paying in so we are going to take the money from your DMV funds." Someone at some point needs to say 'NO, the kids our too important!" But the OC Supervisors did not! You may agree with them. Go right ahead. I do not. I feel education is extremely important so I will keep bemoaning the point.
shelly March 25, 2012 at 03:32 AM
Jane Lambson, So if you were queen for a day you would roll back environmental regulations to make it easier for businesses and corporations. So sacrifice clean air and water in order to help the children? And when you lower the environmental regulations the beaches that already close multiple times a year will be closed more and the air that we are able to breath now will become more toxic. So the tourists will go elsewhere to places that have clean beaches and water therefore decreasing tourist revenue. How about tax subsidies for green energy. Increasing green business will create jobs and help the environment, our children and their future.
shelly March 25, 2012 at 03:43 AM
Jane, When you state, "Entice corporations to return to CA with a lower regulatory environment. This brings in tax revenue and brings in jobs. These job holders probably have kids who will use our school districts. This brings in Title I and ADA money." Surely you are not advocating for businesses to pay subsistence wages. Title I money is for low income children.


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