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LETTER TO THE EDITOR: The Truth About the Dinosaur's Arrival in SJC

Author calls upon Cultural Heritage Commissioner Jan Siegel to retract statements that Juan arrived under the shroud of night.

We at Zoomars would like to call upon Ms. Jan Siegel to retract her statement made at the Cultural Heritage Commission hearing on Nov. 27 and published in the Patch that same night. The statement suggested that our dinosaur statue arrived "in the middle of the night." The implications of this statement are completely untrue. As a commissioner, it is her duty to present factual information regarding this issue. 

The truth is, the dinosaur statue was delivered on the afternoon of June 11, the same day we removed an existing playground it was to replace. We even posted pictures and video on our Facebook page as it was happening. 

It's no secret that Ms. Siegel is part of a small faction of naysayers guilty of making false statements about Zoomars. We insist that this stop.

The dinosaur statue was never intended to cause controversy or circumvent the city's procedures. It was purchased at an auction and brought to our zoo with the best of intentions. It was our hope that it would inspire children to learn about all things past, while having fun, finding fossils around it.

We understand that there are those who love the dinosaur and those who do not. However, it is the duty of both sides to keep their arguments to the facts. False statements and slanderous remarks are beneath the values of this community and should have no part in city proceedings. In the spirit of the coming season, let us take responsibility for the things we say and continue our efforts with dignity and truth.

Steve Behmerwohld November 29, 2012 at 07:26 AM
"Kim" (Bob), You have the huevos to ask who "really" wrote the letter to the editor and at the same time, not reveal who you "really" are. Talk about hypocracy? You are arguing with the editor who KNOWS who submitted the letter. What's next on your conspiracy list?
Jonathan Volzke November 29, 2012 at 03:25 PM
"Kim," You're wrong. I do not post on this site under any name but my own. You're so anxious to identify who posts and who writes letters to the editor, why don't you tell us who you are. Additionally, I am a big fan of Jan Siegel, as I have posted here in the past. I am also a friend of Carolyn's. While I respect Carolyn's right to do what she feels she needs to for her business, I would not have called out Commissioner Siegel. The Siegels have done as much for this town as anyone I know. So in one thread you wrongly accuse me of ghost writing a letter to the editor and also wrongly accuse me of posting under a pseudonym. Tough run on your credibility. I have said in the past, conversations here would be of a much higher quality if everybody posted under their name. You, however, would never have the courage to do that. It's easier to make false statements under the guise of anonymity.
Kim November 29, 2012 at 05:40 PM
Jonathan V..methinks you doth protest too much! I know it's the time of year to "believe", but please. I post under my name, yes there several Kim's in this town...you however, post under many and have lost all credibility, not just thru your postings either. I understand that it's politically incorrect, impossible for you to support Ms. Franks when you support Jan as well, thus your demise, having to post under anonymity. I think it's crystal clear. We'll see if you speak at any of the hearings and what you say. STEVE, talk about "Huevos", go buy some at the market, you need them!
Penny Arévalo (Editor) November 29, 2012 at 05:46 PM
PLEASE stop talking about each other and just stick to the topic. When you start attacking each other, you're only a hop, skip and a jump away from violating our terms of use. So please back away from that ledge. Thanks.
wschrimp November 29, 2012 at 08:56 PM
Penny. I sincerely appologize. Sometime I just get to be to much and fall into the trap. I will stick to the facts only.
Jerry November 29, 2012 at 11:09 PM
ONE individual business owner created this mess because SHE CHOSE to IGNORE and DISREGARD CITY POLICY AND PROCEDURE, LOS RIOS SPECIFIC PLAN and NATIONAL HISTORIC REGISTER GUIDELINES and then cries fowl to everyone else. Apparently she and her "supporters" feel she's above the law.
Jerry November 29, 2012 at 11:17 PM
Additionally, a majority of residents will stand by and fully support Jan and the "few" that are speaking out against what Zoomar's has done.
Jerry November 29, 2012 at 11:28 PM
Zoomar's, How do you defend past and current NASTY and NEGATIVE comments made by wschrimp??? Is he not involoved with Zoomar's??? wschrimp comments have been very mean spirited and sometimes appear threatening in tone.
Penny Arévalo (Editor) November 29, 2012 at 11:33 PM
Jerry, Please read admonition above not to make things personal. Wschrimp has apologized. Carry on!
Kim November 30, 2012 at 12:49 AM
I appologize too Penny...I had tried to stick to the facts, Steve, Shrimp/JV have been very rude to me and have used unpleasant tones. I agree with Jerry, how can one business owner who chose to disregard city permits, policies and proceedures cause all this hullabaloo? Steve might want to know that several of the Chamber affiliated business members don't appreciate his backing someone who does not play by the rules, when we all comply with city regulations.
Penny Arévalo (Editor) November 30, 2012 at 12:58 AM
Thanks for apologizing. We all may have vehement disagreements, but we do have one thing in common: We all love San Juan Capistrano! Remember, Patch is the "public square." It's not a party for only your friends who think alike. It's for all your neighbors, who come with a variety of viewpoints. But we ARE neighbors, so we should be able to have friendly conversations, even when we disagree. :-)
wschrimp November 30, 2012 at 01:29 AM
Jerry. I guess the facts (not the distortions) need to be pointed out again. Sorry you have not liked my past posts, as I have received so many compliments and emails of praise for them. I only speak the truth, but it does not seem to be the truth that others want to accept. Fact - I do not work for nor have I ever been employed by Ms. Franks or Zoomars. I have been an "unpaid" consultant to her for her mining area at Zoomars. Fact - It was the so called Historical Alliance Committee that started this whole mess, not Ms. Franks, and it has been by the urging of this committee that the city and Ms. Franks has had to waste so much time and money. Granted she did purchase the dinosaur and install it on her private business property, but had no idea it would cause some to loose so much sleep over. Fact- The dinosaur was not snuck in during the dark of night. Fact - Zoomars did not DISREGARD CITY POLICY AND PROCEDURE, LOS RIOS SPECIFIC PLAN and NATIONAL HISTORIC REGISTER GUIDELINES as you would like everyone to believe. Fact - Yes, Zoomars did not pull a permit as they should have to a concrete footing for the statue, but other than that, there were no laws broken, and no statutes violated. Fact - The dinosaur is a statue, not a structure, there for there are no guideline published ANYWHERE! Sorry if I hurt your feeling Jerry.
Steve Behmerwohld November 30, 2012 at 01:32 AM
OK, I'll apologize too. XOXO Kim, I am a member of the Chamber and, although I no longer have a business, I have lots of friends who do. If one or all of the "several" Chamber affiliated business members don't appreciate my PERSONAL opinion, why do you feel the need to represent them? Are you saying that Carolyn's is the only business in town that doesn't comply with City regulations? I'm sure that Grant Taylor will be relieved to find that out.
Penny Arévalo (Editor) November 30, 2012 at 01:35 AM
Actually, right after the Cultural Heritage Commission meeting, the Planning Commission met and discussed several structures that were either moved or built without permits at The Oaks. One of the structures was torn down, while another barn that was moved without permission was approved after the fact.
wschrimp November 30, 2012 at 01:39 AM
Kim. To you also, I am so sorry if I hurt your feelings. From the begining I was trying to point out those word you keep saying over and over again of " Ms. Franks disregard of city permits, policies and proceedures" are disortions of the truth and what really happened. I guess no one is going to be able to change your mind or make you see that maybe, just maybe there is another side? Funny, Steven Rios and family, who's family the Los Rios District was named after and who is Zoomar's neighbor, fully supports Ms. Franks and Zoomars and loves the dinosaur. Some people are going to not like it and others do. That is just how the world works.
Kim November 30, 2012 at 01:47 AM
Steve.. I don't represent anyone, but, you should as the Chamber CEO/President, and encourage compliance with city regulations and laws, as this is what Grant Taylor and the city expect, COMPLIANCE. Your last sentence is most disturbing "that Carolyn's is the only business in town that doesn't comply with city regualtions". At least you admit it, but , as a representative of the Chambers business in SJC, you should not condone bad, above the law behavior. That's the point. XOXO apology accepted from me as well.
Jonathan Volzke November 30, 2012 at 01:48 AM
Kim, I'm not apologizing. I wasn't involved in the conversation until you wrongly accused me of writing under schrimp's name, and wrongly accused me of writing the letter on behalf of Carolyn. (Her background, by the way, is in marketing. She is more than capable of writing her own letters.) So, while you want to say I was rude to you, you're the one who rudely/wrongly brought me into this thread. As for Jan and I. I have an immense amount of respect for Jan, and always treat her with such. We disagree on some things -- I supported the downtown master plan, she did not -- and the dinosaur is one of those things. I also respect Jerry Nieblas and appreciate his opinion, even when I disagree with him. I think the dinosaur is fine. You can't see it from the street, it's not overwhelming. Zoomar's is an important economic engine for our town. It alone attracts visitors from Los Angeles and San Diego Counties.
Jonathan Volzke November 30, 2012 at 01:49 AM
Kim, Where do you see that Steve's president/ceo of the chamber?
wschrimp November 30, 2012 at 01:59 AM
Jonathan. Hope you can make the next meeting. This way we can stand next to each other so some can see that we are two different people. Maybe I should hold up a big sign with my name on it?
Jonathan Volzke November 30, 2012 at 02:27 AM
:)
Kim November 30, 2012 at 02:48 AM
JV..No apology from me to you either. You have been the catalyst to all this, and that will be all. Let all of San Juan know that you support this bad behavior, as you stated you support Franks. And by the way, no body really cares what you think of Juan, again, it was erected without permits, under code enforcement, and shows a disregard for city policies and proceedures, those are the facts like it or not. The CEO Chamber was a typo, sorry Mark!
Jonathan Volzke November 30, 2012 at 02:58 AM
Kim, I know a woman who opened a dog grooming business in town without the proper county permit. Should she be shut down or should the county let her get the permit and come into compliance?
Jonathan Volzke November 30, 2012 at 03:00 AM
Well, clearly accuracy isn't your thing. So as far as permits -- I know a woman who opened a dog grooming business in town without the proper county permit. Should she be shut down or should the county let her get the permit and come into compliance?
wschrimp November 30, 2012 at 03:01 AM
Wow Kim . You apologize to Penny and then go on to attack Jonathan. So who is not following the rules now?
Jonathan Volzke November 30, 2012 at 03:01 AM
And judging from your own post, YOU care what I think of Juan: Remember this: Kim 9:40 am on Thursday, November 29, 2012 Jonathan V..methinks you doth protest too much! I know it's the time of year to "believe", but please. I post under my name, yes there several Kim's in this town...you however, post under many and have lost all credibility, not just thru your postings either. I understand that it's politically incorrect, impossible for you to support Ms. Franks when you support Jan as well, thus your demise, having to post under anonymity. I think it's crystal clear. We'll see if you speak at any of the hearings and what you say. STEVE, talk about "Huevos", go buy some at the market, you need them!
Kim November 30, 2012 at 03:34 AM
Good night JV.
Steve Behmerwohld November 30, 2012 at 03:39 AM
Mark, I want a raise.
Steve Behmerwohld November 30, 2012 at 03:44 AM
Kim, typo |ˈtīpō| noun ( pl. typos ) informal a typographical error. ORIGIN early 19th cent.: abbreviation. You meant to type "member", and instead you wrote "Chamber CEO/President". WOW, your keyboard must be different than mine.
Kim November 30, 2012 at 04:32 AM
Be nice STEVE, we all multi-task. Perhaps I should address your spelling errors. Try to be forgiving and nice in your tone, it would be appreciated by me as well as Penny. XOXO
Steve Behmerwohld November 30, 2012 at 05:18 AM
Kim, yesterday after the CHC meeting, you say "Steve, I saw you there last night, why didn't you speak on behalf of the dinosaur which you obviously support? Perhaps you were waiting to see how the vote went before you stuck your foot in your mouth!". Then tonight ,"STEVE, talk about "Huevos", go buy some at the market, you need them!". And YOU want ME to be nice? Do you eat with that mouth?

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