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Host of Out-of-Control Party Explains His Side of the Story

It took 30 deputies to shut down a rowdy party in San Juan Capistrano Saturday night, during which some of the teens threw bottles at squad cars.

Ross Robert Pake's booking photo. He was arrested after teens attending a party at his house threw bottles at deputy squad cars. Photo courtesy Orange County Sheriff's Department.
Ross Robert Pake's booking photo. He was arrested after teens attending a party at his house threw bottles at deputy squad cars. Photo courtesy Orange County Sheriff's Department.

EDITOR'S NOTE: Sheriff's deputies shut down a party of 100-plus rowdy teens Saturday, attracting a major show of force when some teens threw bottles at Orange County Sheriff's Department squad cars. The homeowner was arrested on the suspicion of obstructing and delaying an officer and contributing to the delinquency of a minor. In this letter, suspect Ross Pake tells his side of the story.

To anyone who feels it's their job to throw me under the bus without knowing the facts about what went on, perhaps you'd care to know what happened from the Dad who got arrested.

I have been a SJC resident for 18 years and with my wife raised three children here. I am a law-abiding citizen, taxpayer and past president of my homeowners association. When my straight-A student daughter asked me if she could have 30-40 friends over for her birthday, of course I said yes.

Party started at 8. At 10:15 I took eight pizzas down to a group of about 60 kids. No problems. By 10:30 the crowd had grown to about 100 and the deputies arrived for the first time. I spoke to them and promised to shut down party immediately. They left.

In next 20 minutes things got crazy as news of the party apparently went viral from kids texting and messaging. For every kid I kicked out and asked to leave 10 more poured in.

When the deputies returned just before 11 with 25 patrol cars and 50-plus deputies and a helicopter, I wasn't sure if I was more alarmed by the kids (who were mostly leaving given the police presence) or by the army of deputies acting like MacArthur storming Normandy.

First patrol car on the scene doesn't stop at culdesac but races at 25-plus mph up my grass access drive with sirens screaming as kids are leaving. I was so alarmed by this entrance I verbally told an officer I objected to his entrance. Boy was that a mistake! Next thing I know, he's spun me around, handcuffed me and put me in back of his patrol car where I was handcuffed for almost three hours!

Next, 10-15 officers enter my home with guns drawn and search my entire house without a search warrant and handcuff my entire family plus three to four guests.

Did the party get out of control? Yes. Was it my fault? No. Did I condone the teenagers drinking or throwing bottles, etc.? Certainly not. Could I have done anything differently? No. Could three-four deputies have handled closing down the party without my rights or my family's being abused? I believe so. Could this happen to any parents of teenagers? It absolutely could!

To my neighbors, I sincerely apologize for the noise and the scene caused Saturday night. If you know me, you know that I would never condone anything like what took place. I am a good parent and community member. To those who think they have a right to criticize me and throw out my business info without knowing the facts, shame on you.

Signed, 

Angry and Abused in SJC


Shripathi Kamath January 14, 2014 at 01:53 PM
Angus Kevin Mckay January 14, 2014 at 12:49 PM Shri, you want to know my secrets? I secretely detest the kid in the back of the room who makes remarks regarding my demeanor. _________________________________________________ That's no secret, that's quite evident that you make up things, accuse other people, and get offended when someone calls you on it. _________________________________________________ "As for doing two things at once, I can read your post and not care, all at the same time. See how I did that, passive aggressive and the whole bit." _________________________________________________ Yes, very sloppily. I hope you did not expend too much effort doing so.
Angus Kevin Mckay January 14, 2014 at 02:30 PM
What did I make up? Who did I accuse? Is it out of the ordinary to take offense? No shri, I spent all morning forming my response, you are that important to me. I really feel bad because, wait for it, I had someone proof read it before posting. Oh man shri, can you tell me your secret to perfection? Man
Shripathi Kamath January 14, 2014 at 02:40 PM
Angus Kevin Mckay January 14, 2014 at 02:30 PM What did I make up? Who did I accuse? Is it out of the ordinary to take offense? No shri, I spent all morning forming my response, you are that important to me. I really feel bad because, wait for it, I had someone proof read it before posting. Oh man shri, can you tell me your secret to perfection? Man _________________________________________________ If I had one, I'd share it. Besides, this is your projection. Since I do not hold such views, I get along by being me and not you. That way I do not have to be sanctimonious and then pout when someone does not take what I say as gospel. ___________________________________________________ " No shri, I spent all morning forming my response, you are that important to me." ___________________________________________________ Oh, flattery. You'll get over that and yourself perhaps simultaneously. But I commend your effort, if not the work.
Angus Kevin Mckay January 14, 2014 at 02:49 PM
So again, what did I make up? Who did I accuse? I have the feeling that you shri may need to look in the mirror more clearly, you hold yourself in high esteem. I can't believe I flattered you, my week is fulfilled.
jim capistrano January 14, 2014 at 02:53 PM
Sure...he could have done things differently, he'd be the first to admit to that (in fact he already did)...but the OCSD could have handled it better also rather then what seems to be a blatant overreaction. Their training needs to change. We've seen too many tragedies borne out of "this is what we've been trained to do"...from San Clemente to Fullerton these police agencies are supposed to "protect and serve"...not invade and assault...
Shripathi Kamath January 14, 2014 at 03:01 PM
Angus Kevin Mckay January 14, 2014 at 02:49 PM So again, what did I make up? Who did I accuse? I have the feeling that you shri may need to look in the mirror more clearly, you hold yourself in high esteem. I can't believe I flattered you, my week is fulfilled. _________________________________________________ So your week is fulfilled by flattering me? Wow. more flattery!
bbq January 14, 2014 at 03:01 PM
Angus, just press the "ignore" button on this guy. He's just a Patch troll (paid, perhaps?) that comes on here to hijack the comment boards.
GreenInOC January 14, 2014 at 03:02 PM
@jim capistrano, where did Mr. Pake state that he could have done things differently. In this response of his he is very clear that he could not have! To quote Mr. Pake, "Could I have done anything differently? No." There was a call to 9-1-1 from a partygoer reporting "numerous disturbances" (http://ocsd.org/civicax/inc/blobfetch.aspx?BlobID=32716). It was their 2nd response; the 2nd call from a person at the party reports "numerous disturbances"; if you read the OCSD Blotter the Deputies were looking for injured people. Read @Michelle Arce Castro's comment in which she states that Mr. Pace himself broke up at least one fight; Deputies are met with bottles being thrown at them; minors who had been drinking; multiple exits to the property; kids running away and into other areas; a homeowner who had lost control and "objected" to their response. I would hardly classify their response as an invasion or an assault. They called for backup, gained control of the situation of 100+ students some of whom were drinking and at least 60, according to Mr. Pake, were not invited, detained 11 minors and release them to their parents. The only person who was arrested was Mr. Pake.
Shripathi Kamath January 14, 2014 at 03:09 PM
bbq January 14, 2014 at 03:01 PM Angus, just press the "ignore" button on this guy. He's just a Patch troll (paid, perhaps?) that comes on here to hijack the comment boards. ___________________________________________________ Just like Ca.. I mean bbq did.
Angus Kevin Mckay January 14, 2014 at 03:18 PM
Yes shri, I'm elated and will simply follow you on patch re-reading your carefully written responses, I will print them out weekly and relieve myself upon each and every page as I utter every eloquent word. You can come watch and make whitty comments in the mean time
Shripathi Kamath January 14, 2014 at 03:32 PM
Angus Kevin Mckay January 14, 2014 at 03:18 PM Yes shri, I'm elated and will simply follow you on patch re-reading your carefully written responses, I will print them out weekly and relieve myself upon each and every page as I utter every eloquent word. You can come watch and make whitty comments in the mean time _________________________________________________ In other words, you'll do the only thing you are capable of. Other than hurling that is, while whining that imaginary people are holding Mr. Pake in disregard for not being perfect. Hurl away!
jim capistrano January 14, 2014 at 03:36 PM
Mr Green in OC....how much you want to bet that all charges are dropped against the father...?
GreenInOC January 14, 2014 at 04:07 PM
@jim capistrano, I have no doubt you are right. That has zero correlation to the fact that Mr. Pake believes that he did nothing wrong or that he could not have done anything differently.
Angus Kevin Mckay January 14, 2014 at 04:09 PM
I'm hurling right now
John Smith January 14, 2014 at 05:16 PM
GreenInOC you have no life. I don't know what your problem is or why you are spending so much time sitting in front of a computer trying to make everyone believe that you are so undeniably right. Its pathetic. Everyone has an opinion and I shouldn't even humor some of these ridiculous comments, but here's a little fact. After the first police call Mr Pake tried to get people to leave. Should he have tried before that? Sure. But the police didn't see the party as any kind of reason to enter the premises or even knock on the door, they were way down the street by the parked cars. They were stopping kids from entering and looking out for drunk drivers. Good. When they left, kids had clearly been waiting because as Mr Pake tried to continue to get the kids to leave they came in huge groups, jumped fences, or sprinted past him through any entrance they could find. I very much doubt you would have been able to control a fraction of the situation, GreenInOC, even in your safe, dark little room where you obsessively claim to know it all. Yes, it escalated very quickly and should not have gotten to that point, but Mr Pake had never had to anticipate a situation like it before. He was not down by the police cars where the uninvited kids were throwing bottles. He could not have known about that and could not have helped more since at that time he was handcuffed in the back of the car for simply yelling at the cop for dangerously driving up while he was trying to push kids out. Why does he need to respond with every detail of the story since you have such great research skills? He doesn't need to defend himself for trying to break up a fight because he is not getting attacked for that. He probably did not mention the underage kids drinking because he didn't know enough information himself about who brought it and because it was so obviously pointed out in his charges. I'm sure you have other things to worry about, GreenInOC, so why don't you get a life, marry a cop, and have absolutely no children.
GreenInOC January 14, 2014 at 06:06 PM
@John Smith, was that a proposal?! Mr. Pake's belief that he has zero responsibility in this entire affair not could have done anything differently is what is astounding. Perhaps you have me mixed up with someone else, as I never asked or implied that I needed more details, asked him to defend himself for breaking up a fight, etc... You're right, I do have other things to worry about - what shall I pack for our honeymoon John?!
Penny Arévalo (Editor) January 14, 2014 at 06:36 PM
Hi Drew, I thank you for your comments. This story is a verbatim telling of the host's perspective. You as a guest have another perspective. Clearly, the sheriff's department leaves out a lot of detail in their press releases, as is standard. A commentator above did reference the fight. If you'd like to give more detail, you're welcome to email me at Penny.Arevalo@patch.com. -------------------------------------- BTW, there was some reference above to this being a JSerra party. From what I've heard, the birthday girl has attended several schools and guests (invited and otherwise) were from all over. But Drew could fill us in!
Eric Bergstrom January 14, 2014 at 06:42 PM
Please people...give it a rest already. Geez. We've beat this topic into the ground.
Donna Fleming January 14, 2014 at 07:00 PM
Agreed Eric.. It was a kids party, got out of hand.
Larry Butterfas January 14, 2014 at 07:45 PM
I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure MacArthur wasn't at Normandy
A Pathetic Commenter January 14, 2014 at 09:34 PM
If you are reading this comment than my life long dream of being noticed and taken seriously has finally come true!
Smokey Bear January 14, 2014 at 11:15 PM
Wow, what an ordeal, live & learn aye? I understand the view of the neighbors, the homeowner & the routy teens who have a million hormones raging. Think back to when you were a teen & then think about how fast this got out of control with the texting of party over here & the father not being able to control the situation. Everyone can understand that right? I would say that the family is more of a victim of circumstances than condoning any bad activity going on. I have also seen the excessive amount of SJ Police with guns drawn walking around my house for 1 teen that broke probation, probably got caught smoking pot or something like that. They over react & don't need to draw their guns & inflate situations, but then again, with a size of crowd like this, you just don't know. But the case with my neighbor, (a wimpy looking kid in surf shorts, no shoes & a tshirt in his own home) they didn't need to enter my property with guns drawn, they had the teen & cuffed him with 10 or so officers for 1 wimpy teen sitting at home who probably failed a drug test or missed a court date & was not an immediate threat, but the police were banging on doors & had guns drawn while walking in mine & my other neighbors driveway in a cul de sac. I stuck my head out of my door & asked the officer, with his gun drawn, if there was a criminal running around here, & he said no, just the 1 guy, who was already cuffed & in the back of the police car. They don't need to draw guns, they just inflate things & scare people. OK I got that off my chest, but I don't blame the mom & dad for a party gone out of control. Live & Learn, don't judge people unless you have walked a hundred miles in their own shoes. Stuff happens & when it is all said & done, no one got hurt, thank G-d! Next time go to the beach or any other public place, not your own house! I heard the helicopter & wondered what was going on, now I know. Again, Thank G=d that nobody was hurt! Police, think before you pull your guns out. You are supposed to be "Peace Officers" & this is a pretty peaceful town. I have lived here for 20 years & have not seen 1 situation that I couldn't talk my way out of , so I can't imagine there are very many situations where you really need to pull out your guns! This scares so many people, please leave them on your belt unless there is another gun!!!!!!!
Tornado Johnson January 15, 2014 at 03:12 AM
It makes you wonder how many of our cities went unprotected to other crimes in order to mobilize that many deputies ?
Donna Fleming January 15, 2014 at 01:04 PM
Gen Eisenhower was in charge of the Normandy invasion (operation overlord). Thank God not one had cell phones in 1944.
Anne Marie McCann January 16, 2014 at 02:54 PM
Don't blame parents but Never Say: Not My Kid!
Anne Marie McCann January 16, 2014 at 02:58 PM
Can't blame parents because no parent on God's earth wants a 100 teenagers in his home! Give me a break…maybe extra force was needed to clear the party but I doubt it needed to be used on the homeowner and his family ...
jim capistrano January 22, 2014 at 02:15 PM
...once again, the OCSD has been shown to be out of control...and will blame it on "that's how we were trained to respond". Maybe, just maybe, the training needs to be updated to 21st Century standards.
tat February 10, 2014 at 01:00 AM
100 kids with 2 parents and they don't have a clue?? OCSD has a bigger problem, I have seen these parties and know this is typical of what the teens are doing? Parents beware no parties at your home, social media will turn it into a rage. I feel sorry for this guy.
Donna Fleming February 10, 2014 at 01:54 AM
Tat....I do to. The cell phones and texting have taken teen parties to a new level. Do not go there.
tat February 10, 2014 at 11:16 AM
Donna, I speak from experience, I have extracted my son and his friends many times from these innocent parties gone wild. I truly believe as much as no parent wants their party to get out of control; no parent wants their child at these parties. It takes a village to raise a child, I have one word of advice, (find my iPhone) Greatest App ever, I know where my kids are up to 15 feet. And as you know kids always have their phone on them.

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