Ryan Scores Lower Among GOP Insiders Than Biden With Democrats

California political activists from both sides said their candidate won in Thursday night's debate between Vice President Joe Biden and U.S. Rep. Paul Ryan. But Republicans came away less enthusiastic about their candidate's performance.

California partisans gave Thursday night's debate win to their respective candidates after an aggressive Joe Biden tried to make up political ground sparring with Republican candidate Paul Ryan in the vice presidential debate in Kentucky.

Still, the level of happiness with Ryan's performance among Republicans failed to match that of Democrats with their candidate's, according to Patch's flash poll of influential California party members.

Vice President Biden took the offense against the GOP congressman, who responded in calm, wonky terms, giving voters a rare chance to see the two together on a national stage.

While 85 percent of the 13 Democrats taking the Patch survey said Biden won the debate by a wide margin, only 44 percent of the 18 California Republicans who returned the poll said the same.

Asked who the national media would judge as the winner, Democrats responded that 62 percent would give the win to Biden while only 5 percent of Republicans thought the same of their candidate.

GOP insiders were also asked if they agreed with the statement that Ryan's debate performance will increase the number of California votes for Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney. Seventeen percent strongly agreed.

When the question was put to Democrats whether Biden's performance will increase California votes for Obama, 62 percent of the Democrats strongly agreed.

Republicans were critical of Biden's demeanor, with one chiding the vice president for his "disrespectful interruptions and derisive laughter" and another noting his "smirks and disrespectful chuckles."

For their part, California Democrats were clearly happy with the debate at Centre College in Danville, KY, but they were pointed in their comments contrasting Biden with that of the president's lackluster performance in the first presidential debate on Oct. 3. 

"Biden was a breath of fresh air - Obama should take note," said one Democrat. Another noted: "Obama needed this one and now it is in his camp."

Obama next meets Romney on Tuesday at Hofstra University in Hempstead, N.Y. CNN political correspondent Cindy Crowley will moderate the town hall meeting.

Our surveys are not a scientific random sample of any larger population, but rather an effort to listen to a swath of influential local Republican and Democratic activists, party leaders and elected officials in California. All of these individuals have agreed to participate in surveys, although not all responded to this week's questions. 

Patch will be conducting Red California and Blue California surveys throughout 2012 in hopes of determining the true sentiment of Republicans and Democrats on the ground in California. If you are an activist, party leader or elected official and would like to take part in a weekly surveys that lasts just a few minutes, please email Sandra Oshiro.

Stop the Spending October 13, 2012 at 12:18 AM
Biden was an embarrassment to his party and the political process. I've never seen any one act so disrespectfully to a fellow politician. How sad the Dems aren't calling him out on this. Speaks volumes about them. Also what was his comment about taxes will only be increased for those earning $1M or more? Try $200,000 Joe. That's been Obama's proprosal all along.
Ann Sue October 13, 2012 at 03:49 PM
Brian Biden looked like a laughing hyena with equal sense of the same. The U.S. is crumbling and Biden is in denial, laughing all the way to slaughter. Extraordinary embarrassment for America.
helen evers October 13, 2012 at 09:49 PM
Gov. Romney was great because he interrupted, ran over the moderator, told lies, Vice-President Biden was awful because he laughed at the craziness he was being told by congressman Ryan, you can't have it both ways Republicans.
Dan Avery October 15, 2012 at 07:55 PM
Ryan never outgrew Ayn Rand, something most of us do by the age of 12. So of course, insiders scored him lower. And he told 24 lies in 40 minutes. That HAS to be a record. But then arrested adolescents like Ryan are prone to lie.
Dan Avery October 15, 2012 at 07:57 PM
The Ryan/Romney campaign has issued statements that they won't be ruled by fact checkers, Brian. It's proven to be true in both debates now. What is sad is that far too many Republicans don't care about that. They are willing to flush this country rather than face reality about the direction of their party. Sad, really.


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