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CUSD to Hear Public's Input on Budget

UPDATED WITH A POLL: A community forum for Thursday was announced Tuesday. Will you go?

The , facing a , has scheduled a forum for Thursday to get the public’s input on how to deal with the massive, expected deficit.

District officials published the press release just Tuesday. Originally there was no community forum planned for this year, .

The district has already identified  without having to negotiate with its three unions.

That still leaves $40 million in cuts that must be found by the end of the month, when state law says public school districts must have a balanced budget approved for the coming school year.

The school is planning for what it defines as the “worst-case scenario,” meaning the hit public schools throughout the state will take if voters don’t pass the temporary tax increase California  is proposing for the November ballot.

If voters do approve the initiative, the district will be able to restore $18 million of the cuts.

The proposed cuts the district would have to include:

  • Increasing class sizes and laying off teachers
  • Unpaid furlough days (which will impact the student calendar)
  • A freeze on automatic salary advances
  • Salary rollbacks

“While most of this information has already been shared during regularly scheduled board meetings and during meetings with parent and employee groups, this discussion will give the community an additional opportunity to learn more about the budget for the 2012-13 school year,” a notice on the district’s website states. 

The meeting is scheduled for 6 p.m. Thursday at the district headquarters, 33122 Valle Road in San Juan Capistrano.

Because the district had not initially planned on a community forum this year, .

Penny Arévalo (Editor) June 07, 2012 at 08:58 PM
It's called the First Amendment and common sense. :-)
LeAna Bui June 07, 2012 at 08:59 PM
Glad you are mentioning this. It would be nice if you had more of a curiosity about the statement "for whatever reason." That IS the issue. This is my primary concern, but I was not prepared to debate it on this post (there's enough happening here).
Pam Sunderman June 07, 2012 at 09:08 PM
As we have both said, this is a new media. Common sense comes from experience. There is no conspiracy...just a couple of rogue commentators that haven't been reined in. They will continue their mischief and disrupt civil dialogue unless they are.
randy June 07, 2012 at 09:10 PM
Old wild west theme still applies within Internet. Like you told CM, let it go, go. Move on. Love to hear rebuttals..
Yeparoo June 07, 2012 at 09:14 PM
I would have thought the Distrct position would be the worse case scenario for the kids. It looks like the Union even out did them. So now it's quibbling over a few furlough days. This explains why the district is playing hide the ball. Shame on them for taking it out on the kids.
Pam Sunderman June 07, 2012 at 09:15 PM
randy you will never know how ready I am to let it go and move on...
randy June 07, 2012 at 09:21 PM
Yep, isn't it time for you to run the office? Unbelievable thing CUSD can do for the American kids. Need better solution for them! You lead?
Penny Arévalo (Editor) June 07, 2012 at 09:57 PM
Trying this again (being a fast typist is a curse) Note to all: Live life online carefully, as SCN said. If you make personal information readily available, it may come back to haunt you. This is common sense and a responsibility.
randy June 07, 2012 at 10:00 PM
Pam, understandable. In 1850's, once a cowboy was gunned down, he's gone. No second chance. Nowadays...on the internet....its permament marker sticking on your stripe. That's how it is. If physical suspect, call OC sheriff right away. I hope it won't happen to anyone who got victimized. Could happen to anyone including me..honestly I know what's like u r going thru.
OC Mom June 07, 2012 at 11:00 PM
Interesting that Ms. Sunderman refers to me as "rogue". I take that as a compliment. I don't feel that my viewpoints are in the minority. Any loving, responsible parent would want their children educated. My only motive is to advocate the best public education possible for my children. I want my children to grow up and be happy, healthy, contributing members of society. Meanwhile, California is saying they only need one year of Science in High School. That's a shame. We keep lowering standards, rewarding mediocrity and the dumbed down masses don't seem to realize what is going on. Interesting that you wish to control others and "rein" us in. We are not horses and we will not let you control us with a bit or bridle. Unfortunately, you have controlled and possibly indoctrinated 35 years worth of Kindergarten kids. A famous Austrian tried to do that too. In the end his master plan failed and good prevailed. By the way, we aren't five years old and we won't be intimidated by your threats or attempts at preventing free speech. This is why we post annonymously. You have proven yourself to be a possible threat by all of your passionate posts on many news sites. I'm hoping that parents and taxpayers in CUSD and CA for that matter will wake up and demand that we get what we have paid for. We do not want some inferior, ineffective, facsimile of education. The reason for your anger is that you feel threatened because Wisconsin voters and others are waking up.
Capo Parent June 08, 2012 at 03:21 AM
LB And what you know vs. what is fact & truth are also two different things. Don't forget, plagiarism is the highest form of flattery. :)
Capo Parent June 08, 2012 at 03:28 AM
LB Then I suggest you look at summary of negotiations on the CUEA website. The teachers union is proposing NO PAY CUTS OF ANY SIZE. Somethings need no explaining. This one of those things.
shelly June 08, 2012 at 10:56 PM
So what are you all willing to do to help?
shelly June 08, 2012 at 10:56 PM
So what are you all willing to do to help? After all it is for the kids.
shelly June 08, 2012 at 11:52 PM
The same path? Do you mean the path that caused our district to have less money and so are forced to make cuts? The path that was caused not by our district or our teachers but by others? I agree so go tell the people to not follow the people who caused our economy tank. Some people would like the teachers to take thousands of dollars of cuts (which the teachers are doing) and not take cuts themselves. Teachers are taxpayers and are subjected to the same taxes we all pay except social security which they do not collect after retirement. The taxes are not coming back to our district to fund our children's education so go tell them SouthCountyNative.
Yeparoo June 08, 2012 at 11:58 PM
Not the OWS dribble again. Remember, wiggle your hands up for "yes," in front for "need more information" or cross your arms as a "blocking vote." Ok, who wants more port-a-potties? Have a nice weekend Shelly. Hey, look what your favorite group is now promoting (Nice?): http://www.advancementproject.org/home
shelly June 08, 2012 at 11:59 PM
Shame on who? I do believe the teachers are taking a huge paycut with furlough days. Aren't they? Are you going to contribute more after taxes to help our kiddos? It is about the kids. Yes, it is about quibbling. Teachers, staff and administrators will take a cut. What will parents and taxpayers do to help the schools in this budget scenario?
shelly June 09, 2012 at 12:05 AM
Yeparoo, So why did the economy tank? Why is our district forced to make drastic cuts?
shelly June 09, 2012 at 12:48 AM
Southcountynative, "colored" what does that mean?
shelly June 09, 2012 at 12:49 AM
We do have an issue and it should be fixed by all of us.
Frieda Wales June 09, 2012 at 02:01 AM
Excellent question Shelley. I thought that term was shamed out of existence in the 60s. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colored
bbq June 09, 2012 at 02:30 AM
I'll tell you what I'm going to do, Shelly. I'm going to vote NO NEW TAXES and will tell as many people as I can to do the same. Good, the economy "tanked" due to every other person in the country except any teacher. Too bad! Like you said to me in a post a while back, a lot of people lost income due to the economy. Well, the teachers are going to have to suck it up like the rest of us in the real world. If they don't like it, they can take it up with the state.
randy June 09, 2012 at 03:26 AM
Bbq, also....except teachers and KIDS.
shelly June 09, 2012 at 08:08 AM
The teachers have taken a cut and will again but they cannot fix it all so our kids are actually the ones who will have to "suck it up". That is the reality. . You have the right to vote no and advocate for anything you believe in. I believe the children of our community are our responsibility So I will vote yes and encourage others to do so as well. That is what I believe.
shelly June 09, 2012 at 08:09 AM
The teachers have taken a cut and will again but they cannot fix it all so our kids are actually the ones who will have to "suck it up". That is the reality. . You have the right to vote no and advocate for anything you believe in. I believe the children of our community are our responsibility So I will vote yes and encourage others to do so as well. That is what I believe.
randy June 09, 2012 at 05:51 PM
Shelly, perhaps enough union talk. Now what do our cusd students need? 160 days of education, no new taxes? Or remain 180 days with new taxes albeit increased class sizes and layoff? In Hawaii, teachers are contracted to work 215 days a year with pay cuts and reduced benefits in recent years. Aloha state is actually benefitting kids education even there is a small success (scores, etc), imo. Look at facts are the facts.
Dawn Urbanek June 09, 2012 at 09:04 PM
I think CUSD will have one of the shortest school years in the nation. But the CTA made sure that their pensions would still vest even though their work year has fallen below 165 teaching days! An audit of actual instructional minutes during the school year would be very interesting - especially given the fact that the Union is requesting to have control over the school calendar.... yep its all about the kids!
Yeparoo June 09, 2012 at 09:49 PM
"Los Angeles teachers and school district reach pact to spare jobs" I saw this story on channel 7 (I think) when I was getting my car service this morning. They may be discussing it tomorrow morning on one of their local news shows. It would seem "furlough days" are the ticket from CTA this year, or this is all one big coincidence. "The Los Angeles school district and the teachers union reached a tentative agreement Friday that would prevent thousands of layoffs in exchange for 10 furlough days, which would shorten the school year by a week." "Under the accord, teachers would lose pay for five instructional days plus four holidays and one training day, equivalent to about a 5% salary cut." http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-lausd-union-20120609,0,317275.story
Frieda Wales June 09, 2012 at 10:11 PM
Yeparoo, I don't have the link, but when I was looking for more up to date info on the Colorado school/budget issues, I seem to recall they too were looking at furloughs for the 2012/2013 school year.
Frieda Wales June 09, 2012 at 11:34 PM
Here is a link to a PDF overview of the proposed budget cuts. Education information starts on page 38. Can those of you who say that the if the tax measures are approved the money will NOT affect the per pupil spending in Capistrano Unified please provide me with a chart or link to show how this happens since I am not as familiar with how this works as some of you are? According to this over view: If the tax measure is APPROVED spending per pupil will be $7,658, if the measures are If the tax measures are REJECTED spending per pupil will be $6,953 (pages 39 and 40). Thank you. http://www.cbp.org/pdfs/2012/120203_Budget_Chartbook.pdf

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