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Now You See It, Now You Don't: School Logo Resembled Caltech's

Capo Unified removes the logo from its new online school.

The logo for the Capistrano Unified School District’s new online high school, which bears a striking resemblance to the logo for Caltech, was removed from the virtual school’s website Thursday.

Both logos show two hands holding a torch with the school's name around the border. Both also feature the year the institutions started on the left: California Preparatory Academy in 2011, Caltech in 1891.

A Caltech spokeswoman declined to comment for this story.

Caltech has registered its logo with the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office. The research and education institution describes its protected logo as having:

  • Arms; fingers; hands; human hands, fingers, arm
  • Blow torch; propane torches; torches; welding torch
  • Circles having letters or numerals as a border; circles having punctuation as a border; letters, numerals or punctuation forming or bordering the perimeter of a circle
  • Circles that are totally or partially shaded

The logo was first trademarked in December 1989, according to the patent office.

The Cal Prep logo was designed by Raad Ghantous, an interior designer based out of Dana Point. Capo Unified's board of trustees honored him at a meeting in July for his contribution to the district.

Contacted by phone Thursday, Ghantous declined comment. “I really don’t have the time to talk about it,” he said.

At the July school board meeting, Ghantous said it was his pleasure to design the logo for the district: “You guys do great work. It’s just a small way for us to say thank you very much.”

On Wednesday, Patch contacted district officials for comment. Although CUSD's spokesman did not respond, the logo was removed from the website the next day.

shelly November 05, 2012 at 12:02 AM
"Urbanek said she is a strong supporter of public education, but feels the state's priorities are out of whack. She said she won't support Prop. 30 because she doubts the money will make it to the classroom. "The kids have nothing left, no days of school left, the instructional minutes are gone, our programs are cut to the bone, we’ve deferred maintenance for five years now," Urbanek said. "There is absolutely nothing left." Though Urbanek has a daughter in Las Palmas Elementary and knows that school will be subjected to trigger cuts if Prop. 30 fails. Still, she plans to vote against it. "If you want to help schools, then you'll allow the trigger cuts to happen," Urbanek said. "...I want the system to break enough that we can go and restructure everything. We need to restructure how schools are done. And kicking the can, year after year, and hoping we’re going to have a big revenue increase is not working." Does that mean she's willing to have her daughter experience that breakdown? "Yes, I am," Urbanek said. "Well you know what, my daughter won’t, because I can afford to put her in private school.'" Prop. 30: OC schools struggle amid anti-tax fervor By Tami Abdollah | November 4th, 2012, 9:00am And what about the kids who can't afford private school?
Capo mom November 05, 2012 at 01:27 AM
"And what about the kids who can't afford private school?" Those kids will stay in CUSD because they have no other choice. Who's fault is that, shelly? And the situation will be the same them at that point n time as it is now. Those kids will continue to attend to CUSD-in ever more crowded classes with shorter and shorter school years achieving mediocre results so CUEA members can maintain their salary and benefits. That is how things are now and how they will remain without reform. I don't blame Ms. Urbanek for doing what any responsible parent would do - look out for the best interest of her children and their education first. And good for her if she can afford to make different and better choices for her family. While you hasten to remind of us what we all know-revenues have fallen, please address why CUSD has failed to address that revenue shortfall in any meaningful way that doesn't harm our kids? Hmmm? The blame for the decline in public education in CUSD belongs squarely on the shoulders of CUEA, their puppet board and the parents who have buried their heads in the sand for years.
shelly November 05, 2012 at 02:50 AM
Capo Mom, In 2007 our economy tanked and it was not the fault of the teachers. The mantra of some since then has been, "let's blame it on the middle income workers" . Teachers are not responsible for the budget crisis. But some would like the teachers to fix the budget crisis because they themselves do not want to do more. Yes, people can have the attitude of of not caring about others and only caring for themselves. But many of us do not feel this way. We feel that we live in a community and it benefits all if we all contribute and help so that all have a good education. And people should not hold themselves up as an education advocatef all you are interested in is getting what is good for yourself and yours. As a parent what can you, Capo Mom, do to address the financial shortfall to our district? Our district has cut teachers and employees pay. They have taken cuts so that our district has remained solvent. What have you done as a parent and community member to help with the financial difficulty of our district? Or is it not your responsibility as a parent and community member to help.
shelly November 05, 2012 at 02:58 AM
Capo Mom, Right now at this moment Dawn Urbanek has her child by her own admission in a CUSD public school not private. So right now at this very moment does Ms. Urbanek feel that public schools in CUSD with all their flaws are worse or better than private? You stated, "don't blame Ms. Urbanek for doing what any responsible parent would do - look out for the best interest of her children and their education first. And good for her if she can afford to make different and better choices for her family. "
fact checker November 05, 2012 at 04:32 AM
What Ms. Urbanek seems to forget is that everyone else's child is just as deserving of a great public education as her child is. Is she really willing to sacrifice the education of an entire generation of children so that she can advance her own unproven agenda?
Capo Parent November 05, 2012 at 04:50 AM
Shelly Really, they would get them out through the fire road? Please tell us how long it would take to get over a 1000 vehicles out by a fireroad. How many times has CUSD practices this escape route? To my knowledge the answer is zero, nada, none.
Capo Parent November 05, 2012 at 04:57 AM
FF To achieve this goal we would need to get rid of Alpay the cyberfraud and Pritchard the conspirator.
shelly November 05, 2012 at 01:57 PM
Capo Parent, To achieve which goal? The breakdown of our schools for a generation of children who do not have the choice of private schools? Is this your goal?
fact checker November 05, 2012 at 03:00 PM
Not to mention the fact that many, many Capo parents who can afford private school choose public school for their children. This idea that private school is better than public school needs to be challenged. Parents choose private school for many reasons but it is not a given that they are somehow better than public schools.
shelly November 05, 2012 at 04:23 PM
What is curious is that the people who are championing the breakdown of our public schools because they want change are right now choosing to send their children to public schools. Words are one thing but actions speak louder and tell you the truth. If you truly believe that private schools are better than public schools and you can afford it then why would you send your child to public schools? Actions speak louder than words. If you feel that the public schools need such a dramatic change then why would you have your child in public school?
shelly November 05, 2012 at 04:24 PM
What is curious is that the people who are championing the breakdown of our public schools because they want change are right now choosing to send their children to public schools. Words are one thing but actions speak louder and tell you the truth. If you truly believe that private schools are better than public schools and you can afford it then why would you send your child to public schools? Actions speak louder than words. If you feel that the public schools need such a dramatic change then why would you have your child in public school?
OC Mom November 05, 2012 at 05:06 PM
Shelly, You really need to stop antagonizing people who have their kids in public school with the taunt that they must think the public schools aren't that bad since they likely could afford private. You couldn't be further from the truth. Do you think that some families due to the economy have decided to allow their children to attend charter or public schools in an effort to save money or to save money for future college costs? There are many parents in CAPO (myself included) who would send their children to private thru High School if their budgets permitted it. While there may be some small private schools that aren't up to the quality of CAPO schools, I tend to think that that is the exception to the rule. Smaller class sizes, more individual attention, less classroom disruptions and not having your children indoctrinated in Anti- Christian, Socialist ideals are just some of the reasons to send your children to Private Schools. CAPO and other schools take advantage of the fact that for the most part they have a captive audience with little choice or possibility of attending Private schools. That lack of competition is why our schools are in the state they are in. The quality of education now compared to 30 years ago in California is in a dismal state. To say otherwise is being untruthful.
OC Mom November 05, 2012 at 05:10 PM
I agree. The money won't make it to the classroom. The money is going to the unfunded pension obligations that we taxpayers are on the hook for. Funny, that the folks championing the tax increases the loudest are those with friends or family employed in teaching. There are other moms working as substitute teachers in CUSD who I know are also championing the cause since at some point they may reenter the workforce fulltime.
fact checker November 05, 2012 at 05:57 PM
The state of CUSD schools is great. When one test shows a need they act to meet the need. Isn't that the best use of test scores? I'm still waiting for you to acknowledge one, just one, of the many wonderful things about CUSD.
OC Mom November 05, 2012 at 06:44 PM
The only wonderful thing about CUSD schools is that we haven't had to install metal detectors for weapons yet. Sorry, but the increases in class sizes, cuts to instructional days and programs while maintaining high teacher pay isn't a positive thing. I can only hope that the brainwashed masses who are too busy working to keep a roof over their families heads will realize the con that is being thrust upon them in CUSD. I know many, many families looking to relocate to other states or other school districts. CUSD is a joke. Anyone who's ever had their children attend schools in another area of California or another state knows this. Perhaps that is the reason that the parent who Mr. Alpay attacked and threatened noticed his children fell behind? He was from Arizona where the classrooms are more about student learning than teacher pay.
navigio November 05, 2012 at 07:04 PM
"Smaller class sizes, more individual attention, less classroom disruptions [...] are just some of the reasons to send your children to Private Schools." And why are those things not valuable enough for public school students?
OC Mom November 05, 2012 at 07:26 PM
Great question Navigio. They're valuable to my family. Unfortunately, teacher pay and benefits always has taken precedence in CUSD for as long as I've had children in it. The district has continued to make cuts that hurt students. The only answers you'll hear from the most ardent supporters of CUSD is that we taxpayers should continue to pay higher taxes. Unfortunately, paying higher taxes has not fixed education. California schools are some of the most expensive yet poorly run schools in the nation.
navigio November 05, 2012 at 08:30 PM
But the argument goes both ways. Couldn't a decision to withhold funding because there is a belief that teachers get too much of it also be seen as a political decision made in spite of what's good for kids if the claim is that smaller class sizes are actually valuable? Many people who argue for reduced funding also argue that class sizes are irrelevant (surprisingly). Unfortunately, I think the funding discussion has become so politicized that both 'sides' tend to simply argue their sides without actually dealing with the specifics of the issue or how it differs from district to district or school to school. Given the lack of understanding of our public education funding system (and actually of state spending in general) its probably not surprising that district reps would blindly call for more revenue. If people were engaged enough for it to be worthwhile for the district to have more nuanced argument I think we'd see that more often. This doesnt mean districts couldnt do a better job at this, but it does go both ways.. I talked with the CFO of a district a while back and asked about setting up some kind of FAQ to help the public better understand the budget. His response was telling, 'Yes, however, FAQ means frequently asked questions, and this implies that people actually frequently have questions about it.. unfortunately....' (that said, they set up a FAQ anyway).
fact checker November 05, 2012 at 09:29 PM
Really???? Not one other thing??? Not one teacher??? Not one program??? Not one Award???? Not one recognition??? Not one administrator???? Not one staff member??? Not one thing your child said????
OC Mom November 05, 2012 at 10:45 PM
Nada! When you have had your children schooled in other areas and then put them in CUSD schools all that you notice are the substandard conditions of infrastructure and self entitled employees. Ask my friends from Florida, Arizona and other states who've had issues with CUSD schools. Remember CUSD is a top performing large district. That means it is much better than LA Unified which isn't saying much considering the education level of a lot of parents in CUSD. I have nice things to say and nice experiences from the other county and other state where my children attended school, but nothing to say about CUSD except that parents are being fooled into thinking this is a top notch district when nothing could be further from the truth. Do some research. Speak to friends and family in other states about what is offered in their schools. Families in Saddleback, Laguna Beach and Irvine give thanks every night that their children aren't in CUSD schools.
shelly November 05, 2012 at 11:24 PM
OC Mom, We have a higher API then Saddleback but Saddleback has wonderful schools too so do Irvine and Laguna Beach. You have a low opinion of CUSD but many of us do not. Many of us believe that our schools are good. My children are getting a great education in CUSD schools. Arizona ranks lower in education then California. OC Mom, you have stated many times that people should have a choice and choice is good. I agree with this. Respect other people's choices about the CUSD schools that they have chosen for their children. I respect your choice to choose OPA. That choice is good for you and your children just as my choice for choosing the CUSD schools that my children have gone to have been good and are good for my family. Our CUSD schools have great teachers, administrators, classes, staff and facilities. You may not agree that is your right. Have your children been in the CUSD high schools, middle school? Have your children had every teacher in CUSD? Have your children participated in every program offered? CUSD is a good district.
shelly November 05, 2012 at 11:49 PM
OC Mom, When you address me and disagree with me on a comment board I do not see your comments as antagonizing. I see them as you disagreeing with me. It is your right just as it is my right to disagree with someone as long as I am respectful. I was responding to Dawn Urbanek. Read what she stated. She stated she could afford private school. "Does that mean she's willing to have her daughter experience that breakdown? "Yes, I am," Urbanek said. "Well you know what, my daughter won’t, because I can afford to put her in private school.'" My husband went to school in California in LA in the 60's and 70's which had very diverse schools and he says that the curriculum today is more diverse and just as challenging if not more than it was then. He is truthful. And public schools do not indoctrinate children in anything. Public schools students are Christian, Jewish, Muslim, Buddhist, Atheist, Mormon, etc.
shelly November 05, 2012 at 11:54 PM
OC mom, Look at when all the major cuts to education came. When the economy tanked. There is less money and people want the same programs, class sizes and instructional minutes that were in place before the economy tanked. If we want this then we should be willing to help with the budget instead of expecting the teachers, administrators, our children to take the cuts.
shelly November 05, 2012 at 11:55 PM
Because so far the teachers, administrators, school staff and our children are the only ones who have contributed to the budget crisis.
shelly November 06, 2012 at 12:26 AM
OC Mom, Research when the most signifcant cuts to education occurred. They occurred after the economy tanked. We have less money now going into education yet some people still expect to have the same class sizes, programs, and intructional minutes even though there is less money and these same people do not want to help make up the difference. These people would like the teachers, administrators and school staff to be the only ones to take the cuts and so that education remains the same. Teachers, administrators and school staff have taken the cuts to keep our education system afloat after the economy devastated it. Do people expect teachers, administrators and school staff to be the only ones to sacrifice? Because right now they are. We as citizens of California have yet to help overcome the decreased education budget. When are we, the people of California going to help in this crisis. I personally will not keep asking others to do what I will not do myself. We should all help. And yes, I keep saying that but that is how I feel. When bad things happen, like an earthquake, a hurricane, an economic disaster people should pull together especially when it comes to children. I am a mom, not a teacher. No one in my family is a teacher or in the union. This is how I feel as a person and a mom.
bbq November 06, 2012 at 03:00 AM
F, Since the "state of CUSD schools is great" then what is all the debate about? If it ain't broke, don't fix it, right? No need for more $$$$. Enough said!
bbq November 06, 2012 at 03:04 AM
Shelly, I feel sorry for you. You must drive yourself crazy day and night with one continuous loop slowly chugging through your brain.
shelly November 06, 2012 at 05:10 AM
bbq, You are entitled to repeat your view as you often do and I can repeat mine. Have a wonderful evening.
fact checker November 08, 2012 at 02:38 AM
bbq, You aren't interested in taking our class sizes back to where they were 4 years ago? You aren't interested in restoring furlough days? You aren't interested in restoring classroom supplies and technology? The majority of voters are.
Capo Parent November 09, 2012 at 12:50 AM
I wonder how many mediocre, pathetic or underwhelming things happens in the classrooms of CUSD?

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