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Prop. 30 Bombed with CUSD Voters

The results don't bode well for future local tax hikes or school bond measures, says Superintendent Joseph Farley.

Although a majority of state voters agreed to raise taxes temporarily for schools, voters in the Capistrano Unified School District did not.

Superintendent Joseph Farley said Wednesday night at a forum at Aliso Niguel High School that because the district pays Orange County for election services, it just received detailed information about the November election.

In the sprawling school district that spans seven cities and several unincorporated areas, 166,212 of 226,177 voters, or 73.5 percent, went to the polls in 247 precincts, said Orange County Registrar of Voters Neal Kelley.

Of those, 65 percent voted against Prop. 30, Farley said.

“It was really not supported by Capistrano voters, even though it passed,” Farley said. “That has interesting implications for the district in short and long term.”

Years of slashing the district’s budget have taken a toll, Farley said Wednesday. The school year was shortened by a week this year, class sizes were increased and many schools skipped much needed maintenance and upgrades.

Although there are no solid plans to push a parcel tax or local bond measure, such efforts may not be fruitful anyway, Farley intimated.

“For bonds and other measures – I think it was a very telling figure,” he said.

A parent asked if Prop. 30 would mean any new money for the district. Farley answered essentially, no.

What it does do is guarantee there will be no mid-year cuts, he said. It also prevented the district from pulling the trigger on $21 million in further cuts.

In June, the district cut its budget by $30 million, and those cannot be restored by Prop. 30, Farley said.

“With the passage of 30, we’re still with the worst school budget we’ve ever had. It’s just not $21 million worse,” Farley said.

Capistrano Unified School District Voters    Yes    No Prop. 30

 53,890

 105,788 Prop. 38  30,334  126,195 Source: OC Registrar of Voters
shelly December 01, 2012 at 01:45 AM
Lon Uso, The article is about Capo voters. Our schools in CUSD are not broken. You do not need to shout. CA also has the most kids to educate. CA per pupil spending is one of the lowest in our Nation. Yes, Lon, I agree, we should value education. And thank you for the congratulations. He received a great education from the teachers he had and the schools he attended in CUSD. He was able to get into a great university and is currently doing fabulously!
Alberto Barrera December 01, 2012 at 02:53 AM
I actually disagree with the Superintendent, I feel that the voters of CUSD would approve a bond. The problem with prop 30 was that it was simply giving more money to sacramento, but if the District runs a successful scare campaign, it wouldn't be difficult to get a $30 million bond approved.
Lon Uso December 01, 2012 at 02:58 AM
Shelly, actually the crux of the article is that 30 will do nothing for CUSD. the discussion, on the other hand has turned to education in the state in general. I am happy that your kid got a great education from CUSD. I was not going to discuss my personal experience but my two older kids loved Marco and Dana Hills. They graduated, went to college and are doing fine. My youngest hated CUSD, went to St. Margarets, was valedictorian, went to Stanford, U Pen Med and is an Anesthesiologist. It was well worth the investment. The CUSD could take some lessons from them.
Frieda Wales December 01, 2012 at 04:38 AM
So, if the prop helps schools, with this district be grateful? Or ingrates? Wait and see.
shelly December 01, 2012 at 05:34 AM
Lon, Prop 30 prevented 23 million in cuts to our district. So is that what you consider to be nothing. You made the choice that was right for your family. It worked out great for you and your son. My family made the choice that has worked out great for my family. My 4 sons are thriving in CUSD schools. Not everyone can afford private schools not even a semester. But some can and still do not choose it. CUSD graduates like St. Margerets graduates go on to Stanford, Harvard, Brown, Princeton, etc.
shelly December 01, 2012 at 05:34 AM
Lon, Prop 30 prevented 23 million in cuts to our district. So is that what you consider to be nothing. You made the choice that was right for your family. It worked out great for you and your son. My family made the choice that has worked out great for my family. My 4 sons are thriving in CUSD schools. Not everyone can afford private schools not even a semester. But some can and still do not choose it. CUSD graduates like St. Margerets graduates go on to Stanford, Harvard, Brown, Princeton, etc.
randy December 01, 2012 at 05:35 AM
Shelly, teachers are not rich or poor. Thank you for repeating. Teachers are valuable. We need much more of them right now. "Economy tanked" is your famous spin that is old news nowadays. We have a different economy while the wall street had a turnaround about four years ago. The USA is probably operated by plutocrats.
shelly December 01, 2012 at 05:54 AM
randy, Yes, we need more teachers so step on up and pay for them. Because teachers live and work in the real world and they need to eat and pay their rent and mortgages. Oh, and they get sick and they age too.
shelly December 01, 2012 at 05:55 AM
randy, Yes, we need more teachers so step on up and pay for them. Because teachers live and work in the real world and they need to eat and pay their rent and mortgages. Oh, and they get sick and they age too.
Grant December 01, 2012 at 08:08 PM
Lon Uso needs to be more careful with "the facts" regarding California's supposedly low high school graduation rates. Considering the huge range of ethnicities in our state- more than 350 languages and dialects are spoken within LA County- our educational system is far from broken. We are not even in the bottom quintile: we rank 39, just ahead of New York. Incidentally, The bottom quintile consists of AZ (41), Alaska (42), Alabama (43), Florida (44), NM (45), Georgia (46), Mississippi (47), Louisiana (48), South Carolina (49) and Nevada (50). As for CSUD, our district has a graduation rate of 96.5%, much higher than California's average of 85.1%.
randy December 01, 2012 at 10:04 PM
Shelly, and teachers need to pay attention their own children and anyone's in this American society. Right now, they cannot due to the real world requiring them to figure out what to do with EL, special needs, gang members, addicts especially gifted and talented. Too many going onin the district. The real world bashes public school teachers and the students due to attitude changes. More than ever parents are not paying attention their own kids will be your kids' future friends. CUSD has wonderful schools. Good luck everyone.
Lon Uso December 02, 2012 at 02:23 AM
Why are you making excuses for failure instead of trying to find solutions? Are these children that you are talking about stupid and unable to learn English or do we have a progressive problem (bleeding hearts) as to how to teach them? my family emigrated to the US from Mexico and didn't speak a word of English. I had the advantage that during that time they only taught 1 language and I was forced to learn it. I was premed and ed at UCI in the early '70s and was recruited to teach a Title 1 class for Hispanic elementary students. They gave me a book in Spanish to teach them. I threw it away and taught them English and self respect, they advanced 1 1/2 years that year after advancing 1/2 year previously. We will fix the problem when we stop being politically correct and teach again. You are proud of 39th? well, that's the other problem. And you are selfish to boot, CUSD is not the only problem, California is broken.
Dawn Urbanek December 02, 2012 at 03:48 AM
California's rising standards of living and outstanding public schools and universities once attracted millions seeking upward economic mobility. But then something went radically wrong as California legislatures and governors built a welfare state on high tax rates, liberal entitlement benefits, and excessive regulation. The results, though predictable, are nonetheless striking. From the mid-1980s to 2005, California's population grew by 10 million, while Medicaid recipients soared by seven million; tax filers paying income taxes rose by just 150,000; and the prison population swelled by 115,000. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304537904577277242682364690.html
Lon Uso December 02, 2012 at 02:30 PM
and this is what the truth tastes like, thanks Dawn. And in fact, after Prop 30 you will see that many top producers will be leaving the State.
shelly December 03, 2012 at 07:55 PM
Lon, I doubt it.
shelly December 03, 2012 at 07:57 PM
Dawn, You need to use quotation marks when you copy and paste other people's opinions.
Lon Uso December 03, 2012 at 08:48 PM
Doubt all you want shelly but I have 5 friends that are moving their businesses out of state to Nevada, Washington or Texas. They are selling all of their real estate holdings in California and reinvesting in those other states to get out of the clutches of the Franchise Tax Board. Your progressive buddies will say good riddance but California will miss those hundreds of thousands in revenue from these wealthy entrepreneurs. For many this was the proverbial straw. With all the talk about getting rid of the deduction for charitable giving and a Fed that has taken the responsibility to take care of everybody by taxing the upper middle class and the wealthy, those contributions are going to dry up and the real poor will suffer the most. But you keep telling yourself what a great idea this all is.
shelly December 03, 2012 at 09:23 PM
Lon Uso, I know people who are moving to CA and I am sure you do too but you will not state it here because it is against the point you wish to make. There are new businesses growing in CA. My husband works with some of these companies. I admit and am proud of the fact that I am liberal. I believe in a hand up. My "buddies" are across the spectrum. Progressive, conservative, rich, middle income and very poor. I know the the prejudices that some people have about programs that lend a helping hand to those who are temporary in need. For some they do not mind helping and for some they move away because as you say they feel they are being asked to do too much. We are lucky to live in the USA where we have a choice. We are also very lucky to live in CA where the streets are pretty clear of potholes and relatively safe because drivers are regulated, where there are pollution laws so that we can breath and do not fear a smog out like in Mexico City or Beijing, where we can feel relatively safe eating most of the produce and food we purchase, where we feel relaltively safe going into a building or driving across a bridge, where we feel if there is crisis or we need protection emergency services will be available, where if we have little to no money an education and healthcare will still be available for our children. And I am from WA and I know people who moved up there and then promptly moved back becaue of the weather.
shelly December 03, 2012 at 09:24 PM
Lon Uso, I know people who are moving to CA and I am sure you do too but you will not state it here because it is against the point you wish to make. There are new businesses growing in CA. My husband works with some of these companies. I admit and am proud of the fact that I am liberal. I believe in a hand up. My "buddies" are across the spectrum. Progressive, conservative, rich, middle income and very poor. I know the the prejudices that some people have about programs that lend a helping hand to those who are temporary in need. For some they do not mind helping and for some they move away because as you say they feel they are being asked to do too much. We are lucky to live in the USA where we have a choice. We are also very lucky to live in CA where the streets are pretty clear of potholes and relatively safe because drivers are regulated, where there are pollution laws so that we can breath and do not fear a smog out like in Mexico City or Beijing, where we can feel relatively safe eating most of the produce and food we purchase, where we feel relaltively safe going into a building or driving across a bridge, where we feel if there is crisis or we need protection emergency services will be available, where if we have little to no money an education and healthcare will still be available for our children. And I am from WA and I know people who moved up there and then promptly moved back becaue of the weather.
fact checker December 03, 2012 at 09:25 PM
And yet there aren't enough houses on the market within CUSD boundaries to meet the demand. Store fronts don't stand empty for long. Many small businesses are opening up. There are lots of opportunities for entrepreneurs. Not all will succeed. Those who can do business within the regulatory constraints will flourish. If a business owner can't adapt to a changing market they will not succeed. If they can they will. California is a wonderful place to live because of the climate, geography, cultural diversity, and energy of its residents. If that doesn't work for you then you can find somewhere else that does. Top producers stay where the consumers are. And there are plenty of consumers in CA.
randy December 03, 2012 at 10:14 PM
New consumers are: immigrants, autism, baby boomers & addicts. Invest into them first. Kids last? Plutocrats want them, and they don't want to pay kids and their classrooms. Much later.
fact checker December 03, 2012 at 10:31 PM
Interesting take on consumerism there. Invest in autism? Link it with addicts?
randy December 04, 2012 at 12:16 AM
Autism is a big business or lawsuits. Addicts are linked to the prison/rehab businesses to grow.
shelly December 04, 2012 at 12:18 AM
Randy, Autism? In the USA we educate all. Where would you draw the line. What exactly are you trying to say here because it does not make sense.
shelly December 04, 2012 at 12:26 AM
Randy, Children are born who they are born to be. You have no idea what you are talking about. To say that Autism is big business is cruel.
randy December 04, 2012 at 12:31 AM
Of course, IDEA requires all, Shelly. Doing business with autism is a fastest growing special population of humans in this state.
randy December 04, 2012 at 01:00 AM
Huh? Taxpayers are investing.
shelly December 04, 2012 at 03:41 AM
randy, "Doing business with autism is a fastest growing special population of humans in this state." ???? What does that mean?
randy December 04, 2012 at 05:51 AM
sorry, Shelly...in this state, individuals with autism spectrum are rapidly growing population that many businesses are still developing a (model or product) system where all can achieve in academic and social settings to meet a maximum potential. I find them very generous, not cruel. State govt or business has to find ways to help the special populations as well. Special populations can mean addicts, elderly, foreign, inmates and so forth. My point is that FC was telling about what California offers to the residents who are also taxpayers, rich or poor. In my humbled opinion, each California child should be priority number one, but based on my analysis and study, the child is going to be last to get money in the wallet from taxpayers. Finland is way opposite, I believe. Senior citizens are very generous to the schools and children in their country in addition to their own grandchildren. Kids first priority. Prop 30 isn't the solution because the funding is not completely there for kids. While economy tanked, the state should have priortized right away for kids first, didn't they? Teachers don't like to see the classrooms next to them are shutting down.
Capo Parent December 11, 2012 at 05:40 AM
I guess you're the person that gives crack cocaine addicts more crack cocaine in the foolish belief it will make the crack cocaine better. Most reasonable people think such an approach is asinine. Kind of explains your position on school financing. Just keep throwing money at schools without enacting needed reforms. Thankfully, a large majority of the voters are smarter and more savvy than you..

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