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Will Prop. 30 Fix CUSD's Budget Hole? Nope

A post-election analysis shows more tough decisions lie ahead.

Although Prop. 30 was billed as a way to restore school funding, it won't be enough to stave off Capo Unified's multimillion-dollar budget woes.

If the measure had failed, CUSD faced a $51-million shortfall next year. But even after the passage of Prop. 30, the district is still looking to cut $31 million from the 2013-14 school year. That figure represents about 10 percent of the current budget.

In June, trustees put a bandage on the budget gap by adopting a one-year contract with employee groups.

Here’s how CUSD balanced the books for the 2012-13 school year:

  • Increased class sizes by an average of 1.5 students at all grade levels
  • Continued a 1.2 percent salary cut already in place
  • Continued three unpaid furlough days already in place
  • Added five unpaid instructional days, to be lopped off at the end of the school year
  • Froze regular salary step-and-column increases for six months

The district also made $11 million in cuts to other areas.

Class sizes in Capo already exceed state maximums. The district sought waivers to go beyond those limits. The waiver for grades 4-8 expires at the end of this school year. The waiver for kindergarten through third is good through June 2014.

So, any decision to continue with the current class sizes will take another vote from the board, at least for grades 4-8.

What are the trustees in the newly constituted board thinking? Only newcomer Jim Reardon responded to Patch’s inquiry.

"As a new board member and a member of a clear minority, I will have the unique opportunity to weigh in, but the decision about how to balance that budget will be made by the majority – the same people who brought CUSD to the point of this difficult decision," he said. "My priority will be to protect the quality of opportunity we provide our students."

Here’s state Superintendent of Public Instruction Tom Torlakson’s reaction to Prop. 30 passing: “Passage of Proposition 30 means parents and students across the state can breathe a collective sigh of relief, knowing that our schools will have the resources to stay open for the remainder of the year."

Dawn Urbanek November 12, 2012 at 08:31 PM
"Dawn, now I notice the trend. Age differs. Parents who are much older than younger parents have different opinions. Older parents want to retain vet teachers and get rid of experienced teachers. Capo needs a good mix. Younger parents want to hire more qualified, certified teachers with talent pool where available. Ageism." Randy- I am an older parent - but I want a mic of older and younger teachers- we need to have our younger teachers working along side older more experienced teachers - good on the job training. My daughter has had some wonderful young teachers that have been cut to tenure rules and as a parent I was very sad to see them go. So- does my age matter?
concerned parent November 12, 2012 at 08:36 PM
Fact Checker, your interjection of race ("demographics") into this is highly offensive. You know nothing about me, my family or my friends. I cited a specific study where almost half of Californians said they had seriously considered moving to a different state because of the high cost of living, high taxation, and California's rotten business climate. I said nothing about "demographics," and your assertion is racist.
fact checker November 12, 2012 at 08:40 PM
Dawn, not everything can be goggled. Your representation of what you think you know should be stated as much. Much of it is opinion. In your own words, "what I think is irrelevant." You need to separate your opinion from the stats you post. You make guesses (your word again) based on incomplete and cherry picked stats and assume a conspiracy when you can't substantiate what you post. You don't trust elected officials or the voters who elected them. You don't trust district, county or state experts. Let's face the facts Dawn. You have an opinion. That is all. You want employees to make up for lost revenues. You don't want to do the same. Just say it.
randy November 12, 2012 at 08:40 PM
I'm sorry for being unclear. I'm not referring you, Dawn. I'm just seeing how trending is. I'm thankful to have someone like you who have strong mind focusing all ages of students and their parents. Grandparents worry 35 or 40 kids in class daily with older teachers.
Dawn Urbanek November 12, 2012 at 08:44 PM
Fact Checker- The Disclosure Agreements are posted on the District web Site- so the information they contain are what the District supplied to OCDE for compliance- they do not match and I want to know why OCDE let that go, or did not catch that- it has nothing to do with my opinion- I will put the entire document up for all to see.
fact checker November 12, 2012 at 08:44 PM
So Randy, when would you make the cut? When is one too old to be an effective teacher any longer? Maybe Dawn could share with us when one is too old to be an effective parent. We need all of our teachers back and to do that we are going to have to pay for them.
shelly November 12, 2012 at 09:06 PM
randy, "Older parents want to retain vet teachers and get rid of experienced teachers. " ?? I do not get this? Aren't "vet" teachers experienced teachers????? And if you are going to have heart surgery do you want a brand new first year enthusiastic, bright intelligent surgeon or a great surgeon who has years of surgeries under his or her belt? And I have to say that some of the best teachers my children have had have been the older teachers. And they are often more able to handle more because they bring with them classroom and behavorial management experience and skills. There is too much ageism in our society.
shelly November 12, 2012 at 09:11 PM
We, the taxpayers, have given the money. And if we are not going to pay more then you need to come to terms that we are going to get less. You get what you pay for. More kids in the classroom, shorter school year, less maintenance, less programs, etc.
shelly November 12, 2012 at 09:13 PM
fact checker, agree
bbq November 12, 2012 at 09:15 PM
Antoine, Regarding your last post where you addressed me: FYI- I am not a "dude." I cannot stand Rush Limbaugh. I do not watch Fox news, ever. I voted for Obama. I am a small business owner who has taken a $50,000 per year pay cut for the last several years and pay more and more each year for health care premiums. I have not been able to contribute to my IRA in the last several years (and have had to take some $$$ out). I pay my bills and pay a lot in taxes. I do not live in Mission Viejo, nor have I ever "crowed about how smart" I am to have bought a house in M.V. I don't know where you live where the home values keep going up, but my home value in Laguna Niguel decreased by almost 50% in the last few years. It is what it is. People deal with it and find ways to make do with less. The teachers and other government employees need to do the same.
Dawn Urbanek November 12, 2012 at 10:47 PM
Shelly- really- "We, the taxpayers, have given the money. And if we are not going to pay more then you need to come to terms that we are going to get less. You get what you pay for. More kids in the classroom, shorter school year, less maintenance, less programs, etc." So you are stating that If parents don't continue to pay more to keep pace with increased employee compensation then our children deserve larger class sizes, a shorter school year, unsafe schools and not even a basic education? WOW
shelly November 12, 2012 at 10:58 PM
Dawn, Really!!! As you state, "'You have to reach a point where you have to work with the $$ you are given." I agree with you 100% CUSD Mom-" The employees are not getting more. They are getting less. Pay cuts and less employee benefits. We, the taxpayers, are not paying enough for what we desire. if we did we would not be having this conversation.
Alberto Barrera November 12, 2012 at 11:43 PM
Shelly, coming from a country where the left ruled for more than seventy-one years(and they're back again), you see that they are the ones that use these kinds of tactics the most. Our republic isn't very representative since we don't even reach 75% voter turnout.Either way, I applaud those who stay home because they don't know enough, for they are better than those who vote and know nothing at all.
randy November 13, 2012 at 12:00 AM
Shelly, are you serious?
fact checker November 13, 2012 at 12:01 AM
Concerned Parent, It is important to understand the meaning of a word before you react to it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics
concerned parent November 13, 2012 at 12:17 AM
By the way, fact checker, it takes a lot to get under my skin, but you managed it. Your constant obfuscation of the fiscal realities facing this district and your contempt for the average taxpayers and parents of CUSD have done it. Besides suggesting I might want to move out of state because of "demographics," I'm "vilifying" teachers by suggesting that CUSD face up to the reality of not having enough money for employees to continue to get raises in this dire of a financial crisis. I'm done.
Yeparoo November 13, 2012 at 12:33 AM
I think Howard Cosell should do the play-by-play here, just like he did for the assassination of the dictator in San Marcos. Apologies to Fielding Mellish. All this bickering could end if we just had a 10% Flat Income Tax in CA and completely eliminated Prop 13. Broaden the base, just like Steinberg wants. I do find it funny how many people in government called Steinberg and Perez with good ideas for the new Prop 30 monies, only to find out that money is ALREADY SPENT.
Dawn Urbanek November 13, 2012 at 12:43 AM
Yeparoo- I agree - the tax base needs to be broadened. Also when everyone has some skin in the game they are not as wasteful as when they are spending "other peoples money".
shelly November 13, 2012 at 01:39 AM
Alberto Barrera, Do you applaud those who stayed home because you think they know nothing or do you applaud those who stayed home because they do know or believe what you believe to be true? I suggest you research the tactics of Karl Rove. I suggest that you research elections in our country over time. Our country is over 236 years old. Our government has checks and balances. Pres. Obama cannot do whatever he likes. He is checked by the legislature and courts. As is the Governor of our state is. Our country has blue, red and grey states. You live in a blue state. Can you please define what you mean by "these kinds of tactics" and site some research to support your theory. Both liberals and conservatives can be dishonest in their tactics. Ever watch Fox "news" or listen to conservative talk radio (Rush and others)? Fact check them. Those are huge propaganda machines. But so is MSN and Air America and Pacifica. conservatives use kiddos too. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6ddRFiif6M http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PgjcgqFYP4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6ddRFiif6M
shelly November 13, 2012 at 01:40 AM
Dawn, Who doesn't have skin in the game?
shelly November 13, 2012 at 01:43 AM
Randy, Yes, I am serious. Do some research. Not just what you read on the comment board on Patch. Visit and volunteer at CUSD schools. We all should help. Not just the teachers (old, vet, experienced, young, new or whatever label them to be).
shelly November 13, 2012 at 01:44 AM
Randy?
randy November 13, 2012 at 02:04 AM
Shelly, I did my homework and there is so much going on. Thank for saying something sounded like I never did.
Dawn Urbanek November 13, 2012 at 03:04 AM
Shelly- everything in the add you linked to is the truth. Jerry Brown lied to taxpayers- Prop 30 did not supply any new funding for schools. Jerry Broown the CTA and legislators cut $6 billion from education in order to hold parents hostage so that they would predictable vote to save schools. The problem is that all Pro 30 did was not cut $6 billion from schools- it did not provide any NEW revenue which is why three days after the election you and every education employee are now asking for parcel taxes etc. You have a supper majority - just tell us how much is enough?
Dawn Urbanek November 13, 2012 at 03:17 AM
Sucking the Life Out of America’s Public Schools The Expense of Teachers Union Contracts Were it not for sweetheart union agreements, teachers would not be laid off, class size would be low and benefits and salary would be stabilized. This may be the best analysis of how a big city government school district promotes the unions at the expense of education and the children. “UNION LEAVE TIME According to the CBA, the school district pays teachers who are also union officers or representatives full time salaries plus benefits when they are away from work conducting union business. That includes full-time leave for the union president and shorter-term leaves for other union representatives. The union is required to repay the district by the end of the year, based on compensation that would be paid an entry-level teacher. The district clearly loses money under this arrangement, because teachers who are union officials generally make significantly more than entry-level teachers. The San Francisco school district paid out $83,594 in salary and benefits for leave time for the teachers union president and $222,999 in leave time for other union officials in 2010-11.
Dawn Urbanek November 13, 2012 at 03:18 AM
Money meant for the classroom instead went for union activities—the same union that extorts money from the teachers—in the millions, each year. If you want to be a union” leader”—then the union should pay for it instead of a 4th grader. Humm? Sounds like CUSD to me? http://capoliticalnews.com/2012/10/03/sucking-the-life-out-of-americas-public-schools-the-expense-of-teachers-union-contracts/
Dawn Urbanek November 13, 2012 at 03:21 AM
Shelly - you are a Stepford Wife - beating your head against reality.
Dawn Urbanek November 13, 2012 at 03:21 AM
Oh I meant mother- who advocates against the best interest of their own children?
Antoine November 13, 2012 at 03:28 AM
Dawn - You're a fraud and nothing but a union basher. Instead of finding solutions you're turning this into a mean-spirited snorfest.
Penny Arévalo (Editor) November 13, 2012 at 03:34 AM
Enough with the insults. I'm gonna close this thread for a cooling off period.

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