UPDATE: Search Continues for 3rd Suspect in Deadly Robbery

Employee opens fire during heist at Monaco Jewelers, killing two. Other suspect eludes manhunt in Costco and other surrounding stores.

The hunt continues today for a would-be robber whose two partners in crime were shot to death amid a botched holdup at in San Juan Capistrano.

The names of the two dead men were being withheld, but might be released today, sheriff's Lt. Steve Doan said.

The incident began around 11:15 a.m. Friday when three men were buzzed into the jewelry store at 33955 Doheny Park Road and attempted to rob it, according to Doan. At some point, a gunfight erupted and a store employee shot and killed two male suspects who had handguns, Doan said. The shots were fired during a 911 call from the store, he said.

A third suspect fled on foot, and a manhunt of nearby stores was quickly launched with four K-9 dogs, a SWAT team and numerous deputies.

The search came up empty and, around 4 p.m., deputies started taking down police tape and letting shoppers and other store employees return.

Mistaken Arrest and Massive Manhunt

When the first patrol car arrived, a deputy carrying a shotgun dashed into the jewelry shop through a back door, said Chris Kirby, who works at the AAMCO Transmission center across the street.

After more deputies arrived, they brought out three jewelry store employees, one of them in handcuffs. The handcuffed employee was released after his co-workers explained what happened, Kirby said.

Meanwhile, employees and shoppers from a nearby Costco, Staples and other businesses were evacuated and deputies began systematically searching those buildings to see if the suspect was inside.

Nearby streets were shut down and a helicopter buzzed overhead as a crowd of spectators gathered and coyotes howled in the hills at all the sirens.

Deputies seized a silver Toyota they believe the suspects drove to the jewelry store, and authorities interviewed Monaco employees and watched surveillance camera tape, Doan said.

This wasn't Monaco's first brush with criminals. On July 4, 2009, someone broke into the store through the roof, escaping with $6 million in merchandise, according to KTLA. It was believed to be the largest burglary in Orange County history at the time.

Authorities are looking into the possibility that Friday's heist might be connected to earlier this year, Doan said. Those robberies involved two male suspects.

As law enforcement descended on the scene Friday, one neighbor, Luci Trette, who lives in a nearby mobile-home park, said she initially thought all the commotion was because of Costco's grand opening for its new gas station in the same shopping center.

"I thought, wow, they're going all out for Costco," she said.

On Saturday morning, Monaco employees were busy cleaning up the mess and said the store would reopen Monday.

Kim McCarthy June 25, 2011 at 11:07 PM
S, I follow you, thank you for the explanation. IMO I would beleive the residents who live day to day in the city. Let me also add, anyone who assumes FBI or Local stats handed out by OCSD, Politicians, etc are to be beleived or tell the whole story are making a big mistake.
KC June 25, 2011 at 11:12 PM
If you feel that way about your council members then I say you should run. That is the way of our system, the criteria to run makes almost anyone a valid candidate and as you (going off of a quick google search) already have your platform ready. You might as well give it a go.
KC June 25, 2011 at 11:14 PM
Ok, I'll bite. Where are you pulling this claim from that the police are not fully reporting their crime calls/dispatch isn't recording everything? This is the county that has people who call 911 over locking their keys in the car, bees, wanting directions, etc.
Shripathi Kamath June 25, 2011 at 11:15 PM
Yes, but you give me no reason why you are to be believed and not the FBI. You subsequently claimed (to KC) that "I have spent much time with local councilmen--they are part of the problem." That does not jibe with the " I would beleive the residents who live day to day in the city". Know why? Because the same residents you are asking us to believe, are also the ones voting these "councilmen" into office. If they are not, then either the people you want me to believe are very small in number, unable to elect the right people in office, or they did elect these "councilmen" and do not share you view that the "councilmen" are part of problem. And therein is a big inconsistency. Makes it harder for me to discard the official reports and accept yours. Do you appreciate the predicament?
Kim McCarthy June 25, 2011 at 11:26 PM
KC and Shripathi: How old are you if you dont mind me asking and where do you live? I have been working on getting honest 'for the people, by the people' candidates elected to local city seats...unfortunately todays elections, even in the small town of SJC are bought rather than earned in most cases. SJC is a very divided town in many different clusters, and one group of cronies has been in power for many years---they made sure through donations that they placed 2 more of their ilk to form a majority with another allready on the council....with $50,000 each to spend on their campaigns. S, no offense, but I dont care what you beleive or dont...more importantly I think it would be great if you just realized what you many view as simple and easy assumptions through stats often just doesnt relate to the reality of the individuals day to day experience. Thanks...kim
KC June 25, 2011 at 11:36 PM
I do mind, but I will say I'm "local" and that I know people who've lived in SJC for over 30 years. That and the worst crime they ever had happen in their area was the odd toilet papering. Stats are hard evidence and an objective snapshot of reality, day to day experience is not as "Your results may vary" between two people who experienced the same event.
Shripathi Kamath June 25, 2011 at 11:39 PM
"KC and Shripathi: How old are you if you dont mind me asking and where do you live?" Not at all. I'll be reaching the coveted half century mark in Mission Viejo this year. I am guessing that KC is ancient. Has to be with that sage like wisdom. Let's assume that he is 83. It is only my anecdotal evidence, though. "S, no offense, but I dont care what you beleive or dont..." That's OK, my feelings are not hurt. But I do not believe that you don't c are. You wouldn't be trying so hard to convince me otherwise. "more importantly I think it would be great if you just realized what you many view as simple and easy assumptions through stats often just doesnt relate to the reality of the individuals day to day experience. " That's presumptuous, and a little egotistical, don't you think? I mean, I am asking you why I should believe you, and you are calling me naive for just asking you that *and* asking me to accept unsubstantiated anecdotal evidence. "unfortunately todays elections, even in the small town of SJC are bought rather than earned in most cases" Except that if you believe that the residents of SJC share your view (remember, you asked me to believe them), then how can you NOT get elected over people who you say are part of the problem? Either you are exaggerating the problem and SJC people do not share your view, or there are very, very few in SJC who are not corrupt. Hmm, how do I decide which?
Kim McCarthy June 25, 2011 at 11:48 PM
S, Funny, you think I am trying to convince you and I view our exchanges as trying to defend myself and my day to day experiences which you questioned on this blog. I am not sure what purpose there is attempting to communicate on these blogs...seems like a large waste of time, when I simply wanted to share my concerns...have a good weekend Kim
Shripathi Kamath June 25, 2011 at 11:59 PM
No one is attacking you when they ask something like "Why should I believe you, when I think that your positions seem inconsistent to me?" They are asking you to explain what you meant, because it is unclear to them. Hey, it was you who wanted to have conversations and discussions. If I am not allowed to ask questions, without you assuming that you are being attacked, I agree, it is a waste of time. You don't owe me an explanation, but I cannot read your mind either, so I ask questions. So either we discuss it, or we don't. Your choice.
Kim McCarthy June 26, 2011 at 12:04 AM
S, thanks for the explanation. I will skip discussing via blogging...not good at communicating this way. Thanks...have a good weekend
shelly June 26, 2011 at 01:44 AM
I have been a San Juan Capistrano resident for 16 years. In my opinion there is not a crime problem in sjc but I have no statistics to cite and it is only my personal experience.
Dino Nama II June 27, 2011 at 12:39 AM
I believe that the kiyoties were howlin' cuas it was a full moon and that dun make them start a woofin'
Roy Rivenburg June 27, 2011 at 01:53 AM
Here's how the Oxford English Dictionary, the definitive reference on the English language, defines the verb "botch" and uses the adjective "botched" in a sample sentence: carry out (a task) badly or carelessly: he was accused of botching the job (as adjective botched) a botched attempt to kill them http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/botch
Steve Behmerwohld June 27, 2011 at 05:35 PM
7 comments to get to MTBE's and 25 to get to illegal immigration? I'm surprised. I'm 61 years old and have lived in San Juan for 21 years. I think that the vast majority, 93.6% according to my exhaustive study, of the people in San Juan are very happy and feel safe. I think that one of the biggest problems we have in this town are the people who constantly blame illegal immigration as the cause of every other problem we face.
Kim McCarthy June 27, 2011 at 08:18 PM
Steve B.--It defies logic that in the face of the obvious facts regarding illegal immigration and the negative effects it has had on our town, you still want to pretend it doesn't exist or effect every aspect of our familes lives. Do you have a job? Do you have children in the public school system? Do you live in a gang injunction neighborhood? Who are you to discount others daily experiences...sounds to me like you would be perfect to run for city council, you're allready starting the 'naysayer' rant when your neighbors ask for help and speak the truth. Where did you do your study...Coffee Chat, city staff meeting, Open Space Committee BBQ?
melissa kaffen June 28, 2011 at 03:36 AM
It's already happening in LA as they cut street cops to save $. The poor neighborhoods are at the mercy of the thugs. As the government runs out of other people's money to buy votes... the break down of civilization will ensue. Any guesses what happens to unarmed subservient citizens when the 42,000 CA felons are loosed upon the citizenry ...who haven't the cash to pay the government's ransom for protection. Saving ourselves & the republic was always going to be our job...Here's how to weaponize your vote to INSIST Congress Caps, Cuts and Balances the budget at http://www.libertysoup.org/Home.html
Steve Behmerwohld June 28, 2011 at 04:34 AM
Kim M. I have 7 jobs, all volunteer positions (8 if I get accepted by ASAP’s). The thing is that none of my jobs pay anything but self-satisfaction. I am also Santa Claus for the city and that one does pay a little bit. In my spare time, I try to help out with my 86 year old parents. Do you have a job? My daughter went to grades 1-12 at CUSD Schools - Del Obispo, Marco Forster and Dana Hills. She received a full academic scholarship to Washington and Lee University in Virginia and has just finished her first year at UC Hastings College of Law in San Francisco; so yes, I think I know a little about public schools. I don’t think Capistrano Valley Mobile Estates is in the Gang Injunction Area, but we do have some pretty rowdy seniors. If I did live in the Gang Injunction area, I would still be supportive of it and the GRIP Program. I didn’t “discount” anybody’s anything. Because I am involved in our community, I speak to a broad spectrum of people with a wide variety of opinions. To formulate my opinions, I try to talk to reasonable people on both sides of any issue, including fairly regular conversations with Mr.’s Reardon, Worthington and Burns. Where do you derive your opinions? I was being facetious with my “Study” (or at least trying to be). I don’t claim to be an expert on any of this. I’m just expressing my views. As far as “ranting” goes, I can’t hold a candle to you. Thank you for your endorsement.
Shripathi Kamath June 28, 2011 at 05:29 AM
It encourages me to sign up. I presume that you have read it, and signed this. Can *you* please explain how some of the things for Items 1, 2, and 4 work? For example, it says 20% across the board cut in Item #1 except for military on active duty. What does that mean to bases around the world, not in Iraq, and Afghanistan? Are they considered active duty, in say, S. Korea? Do the soldiers there get a 20% pay cut or 20% of the soldiers get laid off? Does Medicare, and Social Security recipients get the same 20% cut as well? They ask for a 12% flat tax. In a year like the current FY, the revenues are not even sufficient at the rates of36% for the top bracket, 31% for the next lower to meet just the social security + Medicare + Medicaid + Defense expenses. How will lowering the tax to a 12% increase the revenues when we are only going to cut everything by about 20%? In the late 1990s all the way to the early 2000s when the top rates were higher, we had more revenue than expenses. After the tax cuts of the early Bush years that have continued under Obama, we have lesser revenues than expenses. How do you expect lowering the taxes even more to help *increase* the revenue? Also, it asks in Item #4 that we should default on our debt unless #1 and #2 are met. Any thoughts on how we will then cope with the interest spikes we are going to experience that will render all of our collective worth basically worth pennies on the dollar? In your words, please.
Kim McCarthy June 28, 2011 at 02:58 PM
Steve, Jobs--many I am a mother of 3...19,17,11(just finished Ambuehl)--other two went to Ambuehl/Marco/Capo in last 10 years and some private. When did your daughter graduate? I do not live in gang inj neighborhood but am a regular visitor dropping off kids, visiting friends. I spend a lot of time volunteering around town as well (not as much as you-I assume your retired-what was your profession?) The Ark/Homefromnt America/CCS/Homework club/CIC.. Because of CCS we get a lot of e-mail to our board from residents all over SJC. Sorry I assumed you were an expert by using %93.6 appeared you thought so. "Ranting" I assume this is meant as a slam to me-you are right I come off that way at times--My passion/anger watching manmade injustice for profit! I lived in and around Detroit for 40 years and what I have lived here in SJC for 11 is frightening similair but on steroids! I support what GRIP says it is about--I do not support spending taxpayer $ on (minimal success/) handing out more gov jobs when the gov created the need for it and doesnt to its job locally. I want to help these kids but in a community based effort , want to get together for coffee...I think you and I might agree on more than you think--maybe we could agree to disagree but at least share where we are coming from...? KIM
melissa kaffen June 28, 2011 at 09:30 PM
Shripathi, thanks for checking out www.libertysoup.org....the 535Project is a response to a complete Congressional lack of fiscal discipline. The government's BLANK CHECK BURN RATE is $7,000,000/minute every single minute of the year. Americans already owe $61 TRILLION in accumulated government debt. The 535Project enables those who are obliged to pay that bill to address the financial state of emergency we now face. The 535Project is a tool for citizens that clearly understand that our nation's survival is at stack. When was the last time you did something truly momentous? Here's your chance.
Shripathi Kamath June 28, 2011 at 09:53 PM
You're quite welcome, Melissa. It may dampen your enthusiasm just a tad perhaps, if I told you that it wasn't the first time I had been to that website. But OK, it'll be our little secret. From your non-response, I take it that you are either unable or unwilling to provide answers for the specific questions I raised to you. So you'll understand why I must reject your plea, for now, to sign anything since you do not have the answers I need. You see, I usually read the fine print. It seems to be missing here. As of now, it looks suspiciously as if you have not bothered to understand what they are asking you to do. "The 535Project is a tool for citizens that clearly understand that our nation's survival is at stack." Some day we may even find these citizens who clearly understand that it is unwise to accept everything you read, without understanding it, and being able to explain it to others, so that they understand it as well. "When was the last time you did something truly momentous?" Yesterday, as a matter of fact. I hugged my kid. To me, every such moment is momentous. I'll probably do it today as well. How about you?
melissa kaffen June 28, 2011 at 10:45 PM
Shiripath, If the fine print at www.libertysoup.org bothers you. Then by all means have done with it & give a momentous hug to your kids & while your at it hand them each a bill for $500,000 ....since that is what they already owe the federal government. And, if you are into "free public ed" you might also be interested in knowing taxpaying Californians are already on the hook for a $500 BILLION CALPERS (aka. govt. workers) unfunded pension liability...sorry about the facts & fine print but there it is. M. Thatcher once said " the problem with socialism is that you always run out of other peoples money". Acunamatadah....
Shripathi Kamath June 28, 2011 at 10:55 PM
"Shiripath, If the fine print at www.libertysoup.org bothers you." Er, no. I am saying that there is NO fine print to bother me. I am asking you to cite the fine print that answers the questions I raised. "Then by all means have done with it & give a momentous hug to your kids & while your at it hand them each a bill for $500,000...." Can you restate that in English, please? Or better yet, go back to my questions, and see if you can answer them, instead of repeating what you said earlier, even if it is more cacophonous now? "Acunamatadah...." Gesundheit!
melissa kaffen June 28, 2011 at 11:21 PM
FYI an article "3D Hurrican and the New Normal" from Research Associates by Jason Hsu explains both the urgency of the mission and the need for very strong if not extremely painful medicine for those who rely on the government for sustenance. And, hence the poverty our children will inherit. http://images.magnetmail.net/images/clients/ResearchAF/attach/201106_3D_Hurricane_and_New_Normal.pdf
Kim McCarthy June 28, 2011 at 11:27 PM
M. Kaffen--Don't waste your time any further..anyone in denial of the obvious, debt...unfunded pension liability, etc...isn't worth wasting your time with...we can only hope there are enough of us to choose the right candidates in 15 months at all levels.
shelly June 29, 2011 at 12:12 AM
We ran out of money under the last President (Bush, who congress increased the debt ceiling several times under) not the current president (Obama). Just because people don't agree with you does not mean that they are in denial. Shripathi seems to be very well read and informed and just because he asked a couple of questions that people can't seem to answer he is said to either be attacking or in denial which if you read his comments he is neither.
Shripathi Kamath June 29, 2011 at 12:19 AM
If I did not know any better, it'd appear that you have no answers to the questions I asked earnestly and are bumbling furiously posting diversionary links, Melissa. C'mon, you could learn something by finding the answers to the questions I raised, and then teaching others and me. Look at this way, you'd learn something that you have no clue currently about, you'll stop embarrassing yourself by preaching what you do not understand enough to explain, and the citizens of this great nation of ours will be enlightened by actual knowledge rather than slogans. Win. Win. Win. Indolence does not become you.
Shripathi Kamath June 29, 2011 at 12:22 AM
If I am not mistaken, you sullenly bid adieu because you weren't good at this medium of discussion. Say it isn't so Kim! Asking questions on what someone said is not denial. Refusing to answer them, and refusing to admit that one does not have answers on the other hand, is.
Shripathi Kamath June 29, 2011 at 12:26 AM
Oh there are many people who can answer those questions, shelly. They are not always the same answers, and I always learn something from the diverse answers I get. It is Melissa's answers that I am most interested in. (Kim's too, but she says that she is unable to converse in this medium. At least she was a couple days ago.) I am increasingly certain that Melissa cannot. Hence the diversions. I anticipate the insult-o-palooza to follow shortly. With bated breath, I might add.
Shripathi Kamath June 29, 2011 at 12:27 AM
PS. Thank you.


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