Two Men Shot by Suspected Gang Members

Victims are gunned down in San Clemente early Saturday morning. Two suspected gang members were later arrested in San Juan Capistrano.

Two men were shot early Saturday morning in San Clemente, and two other men were arrested in San Juan Capistrano soon after. Police suspect the arrested men are gang members.

Police were called at 2:50 a.m. Saturday and responding deputies found two men shot, one with a head wound, the other shot in the ear on the 300 block of Avenida Santa Barbara, Lt. Roland Chacon said. Both men were taken to in Mission Viejo and were "conscious and alert," he said.

(EDITOR'S NOTE: There are alternate reports that the shooting acutally happened on Avenida Victoria; the actual location is unclear. Watch Patch for further reports as information becomes available.)

After witnesses told police what vehicle the gunmen were driving, police spotted the vehicle in San Juan Capistrano near Camino Capistrano and El Camino, Chacon said.

Police chased the two men into the neighborhood near La Zanja St. The two men fled police on foot, Chacon said. Police set up a perimeter and arrested two men around 5 a.m. Saturday.

One of the arrested people involved in the incident was Phillip Raymond Whitman, 24, a carpet cleaner. Whitman is being held on $100,000 bail.

Police would not say if the incident was a retalliation for .

It was unclear whether either or both men arrested in San Juan Capistrano were minors.

Police did not say what weapon was used in this attack. They did not give a description of the suspects' vehicle. They would not say what gang the suspects were involved in, but a San Juan Capistrano and a San Clemente gang have been feuding since at least the 1970s.

c January 16, 2012 at 12:40 AM
why are we being given little to no information?
Johnene Russell-Brown January 16, 2012 at 02:49 AM
Wow... what is going on... I'm just blown away by everything going on in and around SC these days! Hug your Children before they leave home everyday, if you haven't been doing that already... because anything can happen!
PK January 16, 2012 at 03:09 AM
Lindsey Hanson January 16, 2012 at 04:13 AM
Hey PK you low life. Some folk do not make enough to own a home. That does not make them trash.
Adam Townsend January 16, 2012 at 06:21 AM
We can only report as much as the police give us--on weekends, usually the watch commander is the only one at OCSD authorized to comment. The watch commander also typically has dozens of incidents he/she is monitoring. The public information officers for the OCSD and the OC District Attorney's office will not be available until Tuesday, at which point, we will try to publish a more thorough report.
ms.sc. January 16, 2012 at 05:05 PM
How do these deviants get the guns? I can't understand how easy it is for this to happen in the first place. Perhaps more Law Enforcement is needed to police gang activities. Things are being overlooked and getting dangerously sloppy.
iwitness January 16, 2012 at 05:29 PM
The address where this shooting took place is incorrect in the story. The shooting happened on the 200 to 300 block of Avenida Victoria in San Clemente.
Greg Acho January 16, 2012 at 06:24 PM
The police give basically NO information and the info they do give is wrong. This is what we are paying the police for? This is how they expect to get tips from the community?? When do we start Policing OUR Police? We are better off policing the streets on our own with camera's, the police are the BIGGEST GANG in Orange County. Anonymous Strong! Get out your camera's and let's keep the police accountable...
Steve Pettyjohn January 16, 2012 at 06:50 PM
It's time to really crack down on "ALL" the gangs in SC and SJC. A stronger show of force by the OCSD is long overdue..
Redd Cell January 16, 2012 at 07:59 PM
Just because you are not satisfied with the information the police released doesn't mean they lied. And if you are so dissatisfied with th police, next time someone is breaking into your home, or when some gang banger is hitting you with a brick, you can call your friends instead of 911 for help.
Greg Acho January 16, 2012 at 08:16 PM
Nobody said the police lied. When thieves broke into our business, the police didn't show up to the scene for over an hour and a half... Why bother calling? No results yielded, no follow up, no anything. In response to "next time someone is breaking into your home, or when some gang banger is hitting you with a brick, you can call your friends instead of 911 for help." I DO.... and that's why I don't have gang bangers shooting at me. So again, who is watching the police? Are you?
Head January 17, 2012 at 12:27 AM
They shot whiteboys do all that's going to do is start a race war in sc again like back around 03 & 04 and then everything went away for awhile and the cops won't do anything cause they are the worst offenders of all of them. Oc sheriffs are not police they are their own gang.
Redd Cell January 17, 2012 at 01:53 AM
Wow. That is complete and utter ignorance. The reason it all went away as you have stated is that there was a gang injunction put in place in San Juan Capistrano and San Clemente which allowed the Sheriff's Department to arrest the gang bangers and it allowed the D.A. to prosecute them. And that is exactly what will happen again.
"MOOSE" January 17, 2012 at 05:44 AM
This is so sad, its just a serious bummer all the way around
shelly January 17, 2012 at 06:56 AM
Funny part is no one knows the truth...sc and sjc police have been in trouble a lot lately. I personally know 6 deputies in sc were suspended for "abusing" their rights as a police officer. Also the report said...suspected as gang related....why does everyone assume its a fact when the real charges haven't even been met?
Redd Cell January 17, 2012 at 07:20 AM
Really??? Which 6 San Clemente deputies were suspended? Where did you get your information from? Which news agency reported that?
jeff s January 17, 2012 at 09:01 AM
Stop blaming The sherrids deps.. It's the damn gang ghetto screwups doing this. Cops need to care more and try harder yes, but the root cause is Mexican gangs. Perhaps the good citizens of SC need to police this town themselves...
Adam Townsend January 17, 2012 at 03:48 PM
Thanks iwitness. I received an email this weekend from a witness who said that the initial 911 caller was upset and gave the wrong address; that the shooting was, in fact, on Ave. Victoria. I'm set to talk to OCSD spokesman Jim Amormino this morning to clear this up. I'll post a link to the new article in the comments on this one.
shelly January 17, 2012 at 07:32 PM
It was from a retired sheriff of OC that does volunteer work with me for the cancer society for the last 3 years, so pretty trusted source, and it was in the newspaper. Also, not blaming anyone, just stating that the facts have not yet came in...and in the report, they used the word "suspect" they were gang members. So just saying don't judge until we know more.
barbara January 21, 2012 at 07:43 AM
Everyone here needs to proofread their comments. Insights expressed in slaughtered English just enhance San Clemente's growing reputation as a dirtbag- ridden, has been town. We are the new Oceanside. So ironic how the money moves inland and the coast is left to rot. Congested apartments eaten away by the recession and landlords who can't, or won't keep up properties - it's an old and predictable story. Too many people in too small a space. We were better off with SCPD - police who were part of the community, had a vested interest, knew the population, and really cared about the city. Alas, money talks. OCSD and OCFA. Pensions, not protection.
Really??? February 07, 2012 at 06:27 PM
Hey Shelly you have very bad info. No one from San Clemente Police Services was suspended for abusing their rights as a police officer. I'd like the name of the paper and the date it was reported, which you won't be able to produce because it didn't happen. Or the name of the volunteer that would make up such nonsense.


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