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158 CUSD Teachers Enticed to Retire

Departure rate skyrockets after financial incentive is offered. The plan could save the school district $893,450 the first year.

 officials have offered teachers a financial incentive to retire, and 158 have taken them up on the deal.

By comparison, only 26 teachers retired at the end of the 2010-11 year.

In January, the by offering a five-year fixed annuity that would pay them 85 percent of their current salary over the course of five years, according to a staff report considered at that meeting.

  • Is your teacher retiring? See the attached PDF for a list of those who are.

Savings would come if the teachers are replaced by younger counterparts who earn less, staff told trustees. At the January meeting, the trustees said they didn't have to go through with the plan if it didn't save at least $600,000 the first year.

With the 158 teachers on board to retire, staff estimates the district will realize $893,450 the first year and $2.86 million over the course of five years, states a new staff report the trustees will hear Wednesday.

Those figures are based on 17 of the positions not being filled, according to the staff report. If all of the teachers are replaced, the plan would actually cost the district money.

On the other hand, if none is replaced, the plan has the ability to save the district $10.1 million the first year and $51.8 million by Year Five.

Capistrano Unified is facing a severe financial crisis, and staff has determined and maybe as much as $51 million in a worst-case scenario.

Ultimately, how many teachers get cut and how large class sizes grow will be determined when the district negotiates with the teachers' union, Capistrano Unified Education Association

Earlier this month, the trustees who work the equivalent of 399 full-time positions. The notices give the district flexibility in figuring out how best to cut the 2012-13 budget, officials have said.

"CUEA is hopeful that the supplementary retirement incentive will be successful and that this opens up positions for laid off/temporary employees to fill," wrote CUEA Executive Director Christine Balentine in a March 6 letter to teachers who were put on notice they may not be back.

For most of the positions that open up, replacement teachers are available, according to the staff report for Wednesday's meeting. The only jobs that could not be replaced by teachers on the lay-off list are home economics teachers, one physical education teacher, one world language teacher and two speech pathologists.

  SUBJECT AREA     RETIREES     EXISTING EMPLOYEES TO FILL THE         SLOT    Art  2  13  Business  1  6  Counselor  1  6  Elementary  63  64  English  12  47  Home Economics   6  0  Math  1  47  Music  5  23  Physical Education   13  12  Science - Life  11  15  Science - Physical  1  7  Social Science   10  26  World Language  9  8  Pyschologist  4  10  Spec Ed- Early  Education  1  4  Spec Ed -  Mild/Moderate  12  35  Spec Ed - Mod/Severe  2  12  Speech Language  Pathologist  3  1
Jane Lambson March 28, 2012 at 06:23 PM
Please, jolly, you can't be this naive! Unduly and unethically, probably not. But not influenced by CUEA-CUCF?? Come on! And you cry and howl that the previous board was NEVER influenced by people who didn't agree with you (sarcasm)? As for chronically misstating facts, it's not just those who don't agree with you that do that. You have a couple of soulmates on this board that do the same thing.
shelly March 28, 2012 at 07:09 PM
Jane Lambson, Jolly is not naive. Just because you do not agree with her does not mean that she is misstating facts. She just doens't agree with your perspective and opinion. There are 7 Trustees. 4 were supported by the reform committee and all ran against union candidates and won. 3 were not supported by the reform committee. As to the point of the article, the early retirement incentives were offered to save the district money. Unfortunately a savings to the district will come from a loss of great teachers. Many on this list are exceptional and will be missed. I know that there are only a handful of people who actually read these comment boards and post here and it is usually the same people. It is too bad that it is always accusation after accusation. Some of us really are just parents with no political goal. We want what is best for our children and our district. I believe that the best solutions come from people working together. My opinion is that it cannot be one side fixes it all. I believe that parents and the community should help with the budget deficit. For whatever reason we do not have enough money to cover education in our community. Not enough is coming back to us. I do not believe that the teachers are overpaid and I do not believe that the deficit is their fault. i do not believe that it is their sole responsibility to fix our financial problems. CUSD has good schools and teachers. Not everyone wants charter schools or private.
Jane Lambson March 28, 2012 at 07:29 PM
We are getting off point here, but please read her entire post before accusing me of accusing her of misstating facts. She said and I quote, "And no many how many times you misstate the facts..." Yes, the district needs add'l funding, but CA can't afford to continue to tax its citizens and businesses as it currently does. Therefore, the St of CA needs to come to Jesus about this. Otherwise, the public education system and other govt entities will crumble under their own weight.
Chadd Rosenberg March 28, 2012 at 07:31 PM
Well said Shelly.
Capo Parent March 28, 2012 at 10:47 PM
KC Saying its a "multi-year" plan doesn't automatically mean the plan will save money. You have to look at all the compenents of the plan. For example, what is the upfront costs, what is the projected rate of return on the annuity (is it a real world rate or a CalPER like pie in the sky return rate), how many teachers will be replaced, what are salary & benefit costs of the replacement teachers, etc.) Since CUSD has to cut $33 million to $51 million, I assume it had to go into greater debt to pay the upfront costs of the buyout.
Capo Parent March 28, 2012 at 10:55 PM
JG Because you say it will save money doesn't make it so. What information, documents, projections and calculations have been released to the public that show this bonus plan will save money? How many years will CUSD be in red on this program before it starts to see savings? As for CUSD using every possible means to save money, what does that really mean? When the prior board tried to do this, the unions went on strike and eventually tookover CUSD and changed how trustees are elected. Since the current board has come into power it has basically given back to the unions/employee groups roughly $20 million over two years, a major contributor to the need for CUSD to cut $33 to $51 million.
Capo Parent March 28, 2012 at 11:09 PM
JG Most of the current board doesn't care what the staff does and basically let's the staff run amuck. In essence, the staff runs CUSD and the board is, for the most part, a figurehead. One example, the CUSD staff has been paying stipends to coaches for years without a board vote, even though by law all expenditures of monies have to be voted on by the board. As for your claim that every board of directors functions the same, either you are ignorant of the real world or trying to dupe others. The current board has been a disaster, it is bleeding CUSD dry. Another example of the board majority ineptness is the adoption of Map H. They were so blinded by their desire to get rid of Sue Palazzo by lumping her with Ellen Addonizio, that they complete lost sight of what was best for all of CUSD.
Capo Parent March 28, 2012 at 11:13 PM
Shelly Try a new spin on the facts, your spin is so off base it's getting old and boring. FYI, in case you didn't notice, Brick votes as he is told by Prtichard & Alpay. In fact, I don't believe Brick has voted no since the current board come into power. If he has, he didn't realize it.
Pam Sunderman March 28, 2012 at 11:15 PM
Jane, waiting for any proof (other than "come on") that this board of trustees is acting under the influence of anyone. I am not interested in political rhetoric or in wasting any pity on the oil industry. If it works in such conservative bastions as Alaska and Texas, why wouldn't you consider it for CA? Surely you don't think that any cuts to teacher salaries and benefits ( no matter how big they are) are going to generate enough money to solve the revenue crisis in education? As for naive...really condescending word used by people with nothing else to support their position.
Penny Arévalo (Editor) March 28, 2012 at 11:21 PM
Actually, he did vote no at the last meeting, to the proposal that closed sessions be tape-recorded That vote went 2-5, with Sue Palazzo and Ellen Addonizio voting in favor. Other than that, I can't independently recall any no votes from Trustee Brick. I can't independently recall any votes he took that differed from the majority, whereas, occasionally, Trustees Lynn Hattona and John Alpay will vote against the majority.
Penny Arévalo (Editor) March 28, 2012 at 11:31 PM
Carol, while I appreciate your enthusiasm for your business, we can't have the comments section turn into a section for free ads. Thanks!
Carol March 28, 2012 at 11:36 PM
Actually I wasn't looking at it as a free ad as much as an alternative to the bitter pill some CUSD teachers have had to swallow. In addition, I think my posting is more pleasant that much of the name-calling acrimonious back & forth commenting that goes on in these postings & for which there seems to be unlimited space. Please let me know where i can get advertising information.
Penny Arévalo (Editor) March 28, 2012 at 11:41 PM
LOL, while I don't disagree (about being more pleasant), there's a big difference telling people, "There's always the post office" and giving them a pitch about a specific business with a phone number. Anyone interested in advertising is always welcome to contact ad manager Megan Silkman at megan.silkman@patch.com. I'd tell you we have options starting as low as $75, but that would be violating my own rule! ;-)
Anonymous March 28, 2012 at 11:56 PM
Capo Parent I think the CUSD BOT adopted a modified version of map version J? Please let me know if that information is not correct
Penny Arévalo (Editor) March 29, 2012 at 12:03 AM
Anonymous, you are correct. A modified version of Map J was selected. It doesn't stick very close to attendance boundaries, so in many areas, students will attend a school in a trustee area different from where their parents live (and vote). For example, in Jack Brick's new area, his neighbors attend only one of the schools (RH Dana) that fall in his area. The other schools they attend (Marco Forster Middle School and Dana Hills High) are represented two other trustees. This is just one of many examples where this happens.
Pam Sunderman March 29, 2012 at 12:29 AM
Capo parent...the strike was not about money and it generated several million dollars for the district. Teachers were willing to give up pay to fight for their right to collective bargaining. When you make statements like this you endanger your credibility. If you refuse to accept the conclusions of staff and the approval of the board it is all a matter of public record and was part of the board packets when it was presented by staff at the board meeting most likely. Call whichever board member you will believe and ask them to release it to you.
Pam Sunderman March 29, 2012 at 12:34 AM
Capo parent, how do you know what most of the board members think about staff and please show any evidence of running amok. As for board functions...I am well aware of how boards function in relationship with staff...I have served on the board of a non profit. And where is this real world you speak of?
shelly March 29, 2012 at 01:28 PM
Capo Parent, There are 7 trustees. 4 were elected by the reform committee and 3 were not. is that not the facts? Seems to me that only a few people post and they are usually the same people with the same opinion and the same back and forth. The early retirement incentives were offered to save the district money. Why don't they tape the sessions anymore? I believe the former board decided this. What was the vote on that? I do think they should tape the sessions. My opinion is still it can't be a one side fixes all. There really shouldn't be any sides at all. People really should not see the teachers on one side and the parents on another and the board on another and the administrators on another and the taxpayers on another, etc. We should all have the same goal. This goal is what is best for the children of the community. What does it all really come down to.
Capo Parent March 29, 2012 at 04:08 PM
Shelly You're nickname is "Repeat," because that's all you do, repeat your questions and answers.
shelly March 29, 2012 at 05:24 PM
Capo Parent, You seem to read my comment because you keep commenting on them. I think we are all basically repeating our positions. I think we should all work together parents, teachers, taxpayers, administrators, etc. You may not.
shelly March 29, 2012 at 05:33 PM
Penny, Why don't they tape the sessions anymore? I believe the former board decided this. Who voted on that?
Penny Arévalo (Editor) March 29, 2012 at 05:34 PM
http://sanjuancapistrano.patch.com/articles/capo-unified-trustees-decline-to-record-closed-door-meetings
shelly March 29, 2012 at 06:39 PM
Penny, Do you know if the former board voted to stop this process or was it just stopped under the former board?
Penny Arévalo (Editor) March 29, 2012 at 07:03 PM
Shelly, if you read the story, you will see that the practice was stopped in April 2010. That would be the old board. At that point, the DA's requirement that closed sessions be taped would have expired. If you read the story, Shinoff said he doesn't advise any public body to record closed sessions unless under a court order.
shelly March 30, 2012 at 01:27 PM
Penny, So the former board which included Trustees Palazzo and Addonizio decided not to continute recording? Just because the requirement expired why did they choose not to continue recording? It was in the middle of the teachers' contract imposition and resumed negotiations in April 2010.
emily April 06, 2012 at 02:53 AM
Where's the PDF?
emily April 06, 2012 at 02:55 AM
where is it?
Penny Arévalo (Editor) April 06, 2012 at 03:23 AM
I took it down because it had birth dates as well as names, and that seemed too tempting to potential identity thieves. If I get a chance, I'll redact the birthdays and re-post.
SMT May 02, 2012 at 06:50 PM
It's unfortunate that, thanks to the teachers Union the only way the school district can save money is to pay teachers to retire. If more of the public school budget went to paying for current teachers salaries, and educational programs instead of funding the Union backed Ponzi scheme known as cAlsters maybe we could afford to keep some of the those teachers.
Penny Arévalo (Editor) May 02, 2012 at 07:34 PM
The PDF is back, btw.

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